Hello Hans and Chris, On 3/2/20 8:46 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 5:23 AM Hans de Goede <hdegoede@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> At least for the Fedora 31 livecd grubby is not installed by default (I just >> double checked) and AFAIK booting the livecd and then doing an install is >> how most (or at least a lot) of our users install Fedora. > > It's not on Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-32-20200226.n.0.iso > You are correct. I tested with a Server minimal install and it was there so I (wrongly) assumed that it would be installed for Workstation as well. This is my fault, because the grubby package used to be in core and someone moved it to arm-tools due extlinux not having BLS support and still needing the old grubby tool. But I mentioned that only the grubby-deprecated package was needed for armv7 and that grubby should be in a group that's included by all products/spins. And was suggested standard as the correct group, but as Chris mentioned this is not pulled by workstation-product-environment. I wonder how we didn't find this bug before... > I guess at one time something had it listed as a dependency and dragged it in? > > Grubby is in group 'standard', and 'standard' is in environment Right, that's why it gets pulled in for Server installs: server-product-environment -> standard -> grubby > 'developer-workstation-environment'. But 'standard' is not in > 'workstation-product-environment'. > > I have no idea what developer-workstation-environment is. > > workstation-product group also does not have grubby in it > > And wow now I really want to take up a drinking habit. I think it's > explicit that workstation-product-environment does not want the > standard group brought into it for some reason, and has its own list > of packages to be added. And that's where grubby would get inserted. > If some products/spins don't want the standard group to be brought into then I think that grubby should be moved to the core group again. I've proposed the following pull-request for fedora-comps: https://pagure.io/fedora-comps/pull-request/463 Best regards, -- Javier Martinez Canillas Software Engineer - Desktop Hardware Enablement Red Hat _______________________________________________ kernel mailing list -- kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to kernel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
