On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 5:23 AM Hans de Goede <hdegoede@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > At least for the Fedora 31 livecd grubby is not installed by default (I just > double checked) and AFAIK booting the livecd and then doing an install is > how most (or at least a lot) of our users install Fedora. It's not on Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-32-20200226.n.0.iso I guess at one time something had it listed as a dependency and dragged it in? Grubby is in group 'standard', and 'standard' is in environment 'developer-workstation-environment'. But 'standard' is not in 'workstation-product-environment'. I have no idea what developer-workstation-environment is. workstation-product group also does not have grubby in it And wow now I really want to take up a drinking habit. I think it's explicit that workstation-product-environment does not want the standard group brought into it for some reason, and has its own list of packages to be added. And that's where grubby would get inserted. https://pagure.io/fedora-comps/blob/master/f/comps-f32.xml.in https://pagure.io/fedora-comps/blob/master/f/comps-f33.xml.in -- Chris Murphy _______________________________________________ kernel mailing list -- kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to kernel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx