I've been lurking in the mailing lists for about 6 years now after an incident I had with a couple people in #fedora while I "myself" was helping people and considering becoming a contributor (a friend of mine was considering joining the design team). After the incident and absolutely nothing done about it we decided that fedora was not the place for either of us at the time.
That said, here's a concern that I have based on something I was told by an op at the time. I was told that #fedora cannot be governed, controlled, or anything other such measure as fedora does not have anything to actually do with that channel. Now I may not be using the right wording here, but along the lines of ownership.
Is that truly the case? If it is, then in my personal opinion nothing will ever change in that channel and for something to change fedora needs to create a separate channel that is fully governed by fedora.
I'm going to look later and see if it was in email that this was said to me. Hopefully if it was I still have it.
2016-09-09 10:21 GMT+02:00 Pierre-Yves Chibon <pingou@xxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>
> The #fedora channel is not a friendly place. We point our new-comers to it but I
> honestly would prefer to point them to another place because the welcoming there
> is for the list, harsh, rude and most definitely not family-friendly (which can
> be a problem in some culture).
>
> There has been other attempts to revise a little the climate on the channel,
> including from known contributors:
> https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/132 (4 years ago)
> without much success.
>
> I realize that managing a channel such as #fedora with so many people is a
> though job and cannot be managed as smaller channel, but I wonder if some of the
> OPs aren't a little 'burned out' by this duty and maybe renewing the team or
> part of it would benefit everyone.
>
>
> Pierre
That's a good remark, but still require a Root-Cause-Analysis to
prevent that a renewed team burn out too.
H.
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