2016-09-08 21:47 GMT+02:00 Máirín Duffy <duffy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > > On 09/03/2016 03:00 PM, Be wrote: >> >> The culture on the Fedora IRC channels is hostile and unwelcoming. I >> recently asked for technical help in #fedora and most of the responses >> were insults. I went to #fedora-ops to report the offending user and was >> horrified to see that the user is one of the IRC operators. So, I found >> the link to the IRC issue tracker >> <https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/> in the #fedora channel topic >> and reported my experience at >> <https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/192> > > > This has been a problem for *YEARS*. I've been through the same exact > situation multiple times, I dutifully followed their process of filing a > grievance ticket etc. multiple times, and it ended up nowhere. > > https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/56 > > https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/61 > > https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/62 > > Good luck to you for trying, but honestly, it's a lost cause. On any Fedora > projects I work on particularly websites I am sure to avoid listing that > channel or giving it any kind of official blessing, and I also orient the > many new contributors I help onboard by warning them to stay away from it. > > My life has been much happier and better for never going back there again, > and it's shameful that it's continued to operate under the name of Fedora. I > lobbied very hard to change the situation back then and got nowhere - there > are politics here that prevent any sort of cleanup as far as I can tell. If > I had the permissions with freenode, I'd just have the channel completely > obliterated. > > I do not say *any* of this lightly. > > ~m > I stand behind your statement. May I ask the council to consider this as a project-wide goal: "Put the Friends back in Fedora" A friendlier Fedora community is a key factor to meet our goals. H. > _______________________________________________ > council-discuss mailing list > council-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/council-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > The Fedora Project's mission is to lead the advancement of free and > open source software and content as a collaborative community. _______________________________________________ council-discuss mailing list council-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/council-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx The Fedora Project's mission is to lead the advancement of free and open source software and content as a collaborative community.