On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 03:07:51PM -0600, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On 18 August 2014 14:31, Carl Trieloff <cctrieloff@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On 08/17/2014 09:13 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > > It is a problem with the Board structure because there have been many > > > people who have been on the board who have tried to do things only to > > > find that the board does not have any 'power' to enact anything. > > > > The best leadership does not use executive power to make things happen. > > Vision, common purpose, supporting culture, ability to try and > > fail/learn, and some metric to understand if progress is being made is > > far more effective leadership. To me the discussion is to keep the > > current passive parts the board does, but to take on a former mentioned > > in a active role to facilitate for the project. > > > > Hope that makes sense. > > Carl. > > > > It does. However the best leadership will not get anything done if there is > no one willing to help out or no budget to pay for the resources that the > people need to enact things. What happens is in those cases is that the > leadership or people leave to find the places where they can get the > resources they need. We have been very good about being able enact small > things that don't require a lot of resources but anything larger needing > long term focus, more than a couple of volunteers and a laptop... we tend > to fall apart quickly around the 6 week mark. Various people think that the > Board (or being a member of the Board) can fix that but it had none of the > tools either. Interestingly I think you're speaking directly (and well) to a point I mentioned earlier about the FPL's ability to bring in other roles as needed. What if that included someone with actual funding power? -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com _______________________________________________ board-discuss mailing list board-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/board-discuss