On Aug 16, 2014 2:41 PM, "Richard Sewill" <rsewill@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I do not consider myself a contributor.
>
> I consider myself a user.
>
> If my comments are out of place or unwelcome, please ignore my comments.
>
> =====
>
> You have multiple audiences.
>
> You have users like me wanting to know how this change will affect me.
>
> I am guessing you have different types of contributors.
> I am guessing you have packagers who package products from upstream.
> I am guessing you have developers who create Fedora unique software.
>
> You have downstream customers.
> Redhat is one downstream customer.
> I am guessing Ubuntu is another downstream customer.
>
> You have ambassadors trying to promote Fedora.
>
> You probably have other types of audiences as well that I can't think
> of right now.
>
> How are your proposed changes going to affect each audience?
>
> =====
>
> I thought the board had three main functions.
>
> I thought the board acted like a judge deciding what would not go into Fedora.
>
Not really. This is up to the packagers with guidance if needed from FESCO
> I thought the board decided the cutoff date for the next Fedora release,
> and what had to make it into Fedora for that release, and what didn't.
>
This is done by FESCO
> I am guessing the board does managerial tasks such as handling conflicts.
As a last resort. There are other groups which handle it before then.
> I am guessing another management task is deciding the Fedora name.
In the past yes but Fedora. Next is not going to have names.
> I don't know what else to put in the managerial task function.
>
> Am I wrong in what the board actually does?
>
> =====
>
> I get confused about FESCo's relationship with the board.
> I can look at the wiki and see what FESCo does.
>
> Does FESCo accept packages, but the board decides which release for
> those packages?
>
The packager decides on the release and fesco can disagree if it causes other problems.
> You also seem to have another audience, which I only vaguely understand.
> You keep referring to the FPL, Fedora Project Leader.
> From a description, it sounds like the FPL is the board chairman, with
> veto power.
>
> =====
>
> I wish to know how your board changes will affect me, a user.
> Other audiences should ask, how the board changes going to affect them.
>
> =====
>
> I don't understand what is broken.
> Because of this message, I only understand something about the board is broken.
>
> =====
>
> Anyway, this is my two cents on your request for comments from contributors.
>
> As I do not consider myself a contributor, but am a user, you can ignore me.
>
> -Rick
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Haïkel <hguemar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Dear contributors,
> >
> > Following the current discussion about governance, a proposal to
> > change the governance model of the project has been made during the
> > "Governance for Fedora.Next workshop" in Flock Prague 2014.
> > We request your feedbacks about before considering its adoption or rejection.
> >
> > * dissolving the current board
> > * the board will be replaced by a "community council" (final name to be chosen)
> > * the community council will be the main governance body of the Fedora
> > Project, its role will be to define a shared vision accross the
> > project and the highest decision-making power. That also includes
> > technical decisions.
> > * the community council will be composed of representatives and
> > advisers best suited to help guide the FPL in achieving the project's
> > objectives
> > * groups will be defined based on the existing groups within the
> > Fedora Project in order to have every stakeholders represented by the
> > FPL
> > * the community council will serve as an advisory board to the FPL,
> > decision making will be the latter prerogative based on the council
> > feedbacks and his own judgement.
> > * community council members should be leaders and doers whom will be
> > able to drive and advocate the changes by the FPL for most efficiency.
> > * community council members will serve until either they or the FPL
> > feel that they should leave their seat to someone else according the
> > project agenda.
> > * All the existing steering committees will continue to function as
> > before until the community council decide otherwise.
> >
> > After a public discussion open to all FedoraProject contributors, the
> > board will vote this proposal either as-is or amended based on *your
> > feedbacks*.
> > You'll find attached the slides shown during the workshop and a
> > piratepad with a transcript of the discussion.
> >
> > slides: https://toshio.fedorapeople.org/flock/Governance.odp
> > transcript: http://piratepad.net/Flock2014Governance
> >
> >
> > To avoid fragmenting the debate, please keep the discussion on the
> > @board-discuss list.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Fedora Board
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