Thank you so much for the help. What do you mean by getting Apache running? I've been clicking on an icon in my Start Menu that says Start Apache in Console. I then get the error message; there is no place to type in localhost. I installed PHP as a direct subdirectory of C:\, although I did install Apache in Program Files. I don't have php\dll folder, so it is possible that I am not getting a complete installation when I install. I've tried removing and reinstalling several times, but its possible that is a problem. Dennis _____ From: operationsengineer1@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:operationsengineer1@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 1:39 PM To: Gross, Dennis; 'php-windows@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: Re: Windows, Apache, and PHP dennis, the first step is to get apache running. did you do that? did you test it by typing in "localhost" and getting the apache page? i also found it easier t install apache to the c:\ so that the path ends up being c:\apache. The default includes "Program files" in the path and I think the space caused me some big time grief. you may be able to overcome that by using quote marks surrounding the path, but i chose to install at c:\ instead. php4apache.dll should be in your php/dll folder (there is another important file i can't recall right now). i moved it up to my c:\php folder which i put in my xp path startup path. if you don't have it i don't think php wll run. give me a little more information and i'll help from there. "Gross, Dennis" <grossde@xxxxxxx> wrote: Hi. I am trying to install Apache and PHP on a desktop running Windows XP. This is a test site, I am not interested in a live site yet. When I try to run Apache, I get the message that the system could not find the php4apache.dll. This is a line in the httpd.conf file, but there is no php4apache.dll on my PC. The PHP version is 4.3.3.8, and Apache is is version 1.3.something. Can anyone help? Dennis _____ Do you Yahoo!? Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Yahoo! Enter <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=26640/*http:/promotions.yahoo.com/goldrush> now.