On Friday 25 February 2022 02:07:50 pm William Morder via tde-users wrote: > On Friday 25 February 2022 11:42:40 Michael wrote: > > > I managed to get rid of those pesky unwelcome visitors, and imagined > > > that I was on the way to having a machine that actually does what I > > > want. > > > > > > All of a sudden, most of my browsers will not launch at all. > > > > Add back, one at a time, those pesky visitors. > > I never did identify who or what they were, exactly, although E. Liddell > seems to have tracked down one of them. > > > it sounded more like Gnome BS than anything TDE. > > Well, it is only Gnome if I missed it somehow. I try to install only TDE, > although I do rely on the xfce desktop until I get through the base system > installation, and move to the TDE packages. > > I keep xfce installed for troubleshooting, to see if I have problems there. > I suppose I could try running those browsers in xfce to see if they'll > start. > > > You are on a Debian derivative? If so, I have no Gnome(s), so if you'll > > post what packages you removed to get rid of the visitors, I’ll see if > > they’re installed here. (Which might bring it back on topic??????) > > I went through a reinstallation of my OS, and had already pruned everything > that seemed to be the cause. I believe that myself and others (thanks to E. > Liddell!) traced them back to the originating processes, as much as > possible. In any case, top looks normal to me now; except of course that > only 2 of my 10 or so browsers will start. > > > Best, > > Michael > > Since I have reinstalled my OS, the only evidence is what I posted to the > mailing list. But as I recall, most of them were python3 stuff. I basically > pruned back everything that I was installing, trying to add one thing at a > time to get my laptop working like my desktop used to work. But moving to a > different machine, which is newer, which has 64-bit architecture rather > than 32-bit like my desktop, and upgrading to Devuan Chimaera, all those > together mean that it's not a perfectly smooth transition to the new > machine. Uhg! Hmmm, try this? It shouldn't take too long, and doesn't make any changes to your new box. - Download and build a MX21 Live USB. - Boot from that. https://mxlinux.org/download-links/ Pick the kernal that's closest to what you've got installed now. (Run "inxi -S" to see what you've got now.) In any event, MX21 should be the same base debian as your devuan, so you can run top and see it it's got the same 3 unwelcome visitors. If it does, then, hey!, they're not unwelcome :) Best, Michael ____________________________________________________ tde-users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web mail archive available at https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx