On Friday 25 February 2022 11:42:40 Michael wrote: > > I managed to get rid of those pesky unwelcome visitors, and imagined that > > I was on the way to having a machine that actually does what I want. > > > > All of a sudden, most of my browsers will not launch at all. > > Add back, one at a time, those pesky visitors. > I never did identify who or what they were, exactly, although E. Liddell seems to have tracked down one of them. > it sounded more like Gnome BS than anything TDE. > Well, it is only Gnome if I missed it somehow. I try to install only TDE, although I do rely on the xfce desktop until I get through the base system installation, and move to the TDE packages. I keep xfce installed for troubleshooting, to see if I have problems there. I suppose I could try running those browsers in xfce to see if they'll start. > You are on a Debian derivative? If so, I have no Gnome(s), so if you'll > post what packages you removed to get rid of the visitors, I’ll see if > they’re installed here. (Which might bring it back on topic??????) I went through a reinstallation of my OS, and had already pruned everything that seemed to be the cause. I believe that myself and others (thanks to E. Liddell!) traced them back to the originating processes, as much as possible. In any case, top looks normal to me now; except of course that only 2 of my 10 or so browsers will start. > > Best, > Michael Since I have reinstalled my OS, the only evidence is what I posted to the mailing list. But as I recall, most of them were python3 stuff. I basically pruned back everything that I was installing, trying to add one thing at a time to get my laptop working like my desktop used to work. But moving to a different machine, which is newer, which has 64-bit architecture rather than 32-bit like my desktop, and upgrading to Devuan Chimaera, all those together mean that it's not a perfectly smooth transition to the new machine. Bill ____________________________________________________ tde-users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web mail archive available at https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx