On Saturday 12 June 2021 03:30:41 pm dep via tde-users wrote: > said Borg Labs: > | On Friday 11 June 2021 06:12:25 pm dep wrote: > | > said Nick Koretsky: > | > | On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 15:45:12 -0500 > | > | > | > | Michael <mb_trinity_desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > | > | > On Friday 11 June 2021 02:12:48 pm dep wrote: > | > | > > Nor is there any place I can find a simple file that contains > | > | > > all the entries in one's KMenu, such that one might rearrange > | > | > > them by hand. It is surely stored someplace, but I cannot find > | > | > > it. It ought to be able to be opened in a spreadsheet such that > | > | > > the order could be altered with a click. > | > | > > | > | > Okay, this will suck... > | > | > > | > | > - Open a command prompt > | > | > - Do nothing for more than 1 minute... > | > | > - Edit something in KMenu > | > | > - Then run these two commands > | > | > > | > | > # find / -newerct $(date +%Y-%m-%d -d '1 min ago') -type f > | > | > # find / -newermt $(date +%Y-%m-%d -d '1 min ago') -type f > | > | > > | > | > The first does "Change" time, the second does "Create" time. > | > | > > | > | > And you *should*! be able to find where KMenu stores it changes > | > | > in... > | > | > | > | This will not help. There is > | > | .config/menus/applications-tdemenuedit.menu but it only contains > | > | manually edited things. > | > | AFAIK the actual menu is assembled in memory from .desktop files > | > > | > A glance at it suggests that it includes lots of things that I didn't > | > add manually. But it would also be a huge headache to try to edit it > | > into any kind of order. > | > > | > Still, it's more than nothing. I just see no obvious way, other than > | > cut'n'paste in a text editor, to manipulate it. > | > > | > Am I the only one who finds KMenu troublesome? > | > -- > | > dep > | > | ME! > | > | Which is why, since they went xml or whatever, I've been creating my own > | menus. > | > | What I do, is create a dir called "system" in my user dir > | then add 'kmenu" > | I give the dir a hidden icon, setup the .directory file. > | Submenus, and desktop items. > | > | I then add them as quick browsers to kicker. > | > | I use kbfx as a main menu (thank you Ali) search function to find items > | I want and copy them to the appropriate submenu in my custom kmenu. > | > | The kids love the "penguin menu" where all the most used items are. > | > | This can easily be customized using drag and drop and text editors. > | > | I also create a custom menu using keditmenu to add items I want to have > | keyboard hot keys. > | > | A few steps but once it's done you can back it up, add, subtract items > | etc. Been doing it since 3.5. > > I've just downloaded and installed kbfx, but I can't make heads or tails of > it. In fact, all that I can see that got installed was a configuration > application that is heavy on themes -- yuck -- and light on how to use the > thing. In fact, I can't find how to start the thing at all. > > What I'm trying to achieve here is a menu that lists applications of my > choosing in categories of my choosing in an order of my choosing, which > would be alphabetical. I cannot imagine that this would be particularly > complicated, but it apparently is. One of the reasons I abandoned KDE > after 3.5 is that it seemed that people were engaging in Dickensian > programming. (Charles Dickens was paid by the word, which is why his > newspaper serials and resulting books are so long and complicated. If he > had been paid by the job, they would have been shorter, less complicated, > and generally better, I think.) > > It needn't look any different from the regular KMenu. I just want to be > able to populate it in my own fashion. No one else needs to like it, > because no one else will ever see it. > > I'm given to understand -- thanks, Kate! -- that kbfx somehow will allow > this, but its configuration program is solely about how it looks, not what > it contains. Nor does it specify how to start the damned thing. What's the > command to open kbfx? > -- It's an applet. Unlock kicker. Choose "add applet to panel" If kbfx is installed, it will appear on the list. Kate ____________________________________________________ tde-users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web mail archive available at https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx