Re: Mailing list etiquette [meta] top posting?

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On Saturday 16 January 2021 21:47:15 Felix Miata wrote:
> William Morder composed on 2021-01-16 21:23 (UTC-0800):
> > Why not try to work on getting me to exercise more, while you are at it,
> > or to stick to a healthier diet, or to stop smoking? Those are far more
> > worthy goals, in my opinion, and might actually succeed, as I do really
> > want to improve myself.
>
> I for one will continue to apply the golden rule.

I don't disagree with you, Felix. The TDE mailing list has used this same rule 
ever since TDE got started. 

With respect, however, this one thing is the single biggest cause for 
complaints among us all, and causes us to keep going round in these same 
ruts ... again and again and again ... round and round ... 

Yes, no top-posting *does* make logical sense, for flow of reading; no 
disagreements there. And in some ideal nerdist paradise, this is the way 
things *ought* to be. But in reality, about half of us never trim, or only 
seldom, while others top-post out of habit. 

So because of this one rule, no top-posting, we are put in the position of 
trying to reform others of their bad habits. But -- I am just guessing -- the 
main reasons that many of us do not trim the layers of posts are:  
1) respect for the other person's views 
2) one gets rather too enthusiastic, and wants to respond right NOW, and hits 
send a few seconds too soon. 

(We ought to remind ourselves, by the way, that every one of us are much less 
interesting to other people than we are to ourselves.) 

Now, if we would just top-post, like other emails in general, the dynamics are 
changed. It will be difficult to read backwards sometimes, but half of the 
offending posts are those layers upon layers of conversation which we are 
asked to trim. And the few lines of response are right at the top; no need to 
scroll through six screens to get to the punchline. And then, every so often 
somebody or other will come along and clean it up, trim off the layers that 
other people left neglected and untidy. Top-posting would just be SO much 
easier for everybody. 

Anyway, I will follow the group consensus, and try to abide by the rules and 
respect others. I just believe that we waste a lot of time complaining about 
what is readily fixed by changing this one thing. 

Bill
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