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On 5/22/2014 12:56 PM, Craig Arno wrote:
> Hi Bryan,
>
> > /I'm puzzled that you said you have this "missing folder" issue with
> Thunderbird as well though. All of our Thunderbird clients render all of
> the folder names correctly here./
>
> I'm puzzled to know how you can't see this issue with Squirrelmail
> 1.4.22 / Thunderbird 24.5.0 (Linux & Windows) unless you haven't tried
> it, or we're discussing two different issues. If you haven't tried it,
> then you're wasting everyone's time (including mine) by posting to this
> list.
>
> The issue I describe is neither SquirrelMail, nor Thunderbird will allow
> me to *CREATE* "JunkSubFolder" (as is done manually in the next
> paragraph). *-Try this-,* and then tell me how this isn't an issue with
> your setup, or that this isn't the issue you describe.
>
> In the Command Shell, go to ~/mail and execute "mkdir JunkSubFolder".
> (This step can -not- be performed through current versions of
> SquirrelMail or Thunderbird {Windows or Linux} through Dovecot)
>
> Now, in SquirrelMail go to "Folders". Subscribe to "JunkSubFolder".
> Perform a "refresh folder list". Notice how in SquirrelMail this new
> subfolder now displays in SquirrelMail *and can be used**in
> SquirrelMail*. If all of your issue is about is "rendering" or
> "displaying", this demonstrates rendering or displaying are not issues
> in SquirrelMail.
>
> In Thunderbird try to Subscribe to "JunkSubFolder". *You can't*. It's
> displayed, but you can't use it. With no ability to Subscribe, this
> also means Thunderbird can't use this new subfolder. *You can use this
> subfolder in SquirrelMail as I'll now prove*.
>
> In SquirrelMail "Folders", in the "Create Folder" area, set "as a
> subfolder of" to "JunkSubFolder". Now fill in the dialog box with a
> mailfolder name like "myStuff". Press the Create button. Perform a
> "refresh folder list". Notice how "myStuff" now appears under
> JunkSubFolder.
>
> In Thunderbird you can -now- subscribe to the existing
> JunkSubFolder/myStuff (thanks to SquirrelMail creating
> JunkSubFolder/myStuff). To display JunkSubFolder/myStuff in
> Thunderbird, you must shutdown Thunderbird, all the way, no open
> windows, restart Thunderbird, then JunkSubFolder/myStuff will display
> and will already for use through Dovecot because the last actions with
> SquirrelMail already subscribed you to JunkSubFolder/myStuff.
> Thunderbird doesn't support a "refresh folder list" function, like
> SquirrelMail does, so complete shutdown and restart is the only way to
> "refresh".
>
> From this point forward both SquirrelMail and Thunderbird can create
> and use "myStuff2", and "myStuff3" -in- the new JunkSubFolder from
> either application UI.
>
> Since neither program can CREATE JunkSubFolder, I believe what you are
> calling a BUG is really a FEATURE REQUEST (as you suggested is a
> possibility). What I find interesting/amazing is with manual
> intervention, both programs handle the resulting file system directory
> structure correctly through Dovecot -after- it is manually setup outside
> of either program.
>
> Practical or not, this is the current status quo.
>
> Craig
>
>
> On 05/22/2014 11:05 AM, Bryan wrote:
>> Hi Craig,
>>
>> That's an interesting solution but not practical for a large user base.
>> I'm puzzled that you said you have this "missing folder" issue with
>> Thunderbird as well though. All of our Thunderbird clients render all of
>> the folder names correctly here. I'm only seeing this issue from
>> Squirrelmail. I completely understand why since from a filesystem level,
>> no such "folder" exists. I'm starting to develop the opinion that I
>> might classify this as either something deserving a feature request or
>> plug-in fix.
>>
>> I'm open to other ideas though if someone else on the list can chime in.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Bryan
>>
>> On 5/21/2014 5:18 PM, Craig Arno wrote:
>>> I'm running Squirrelmail 1.4.22 using Dovecot and had to do a little
>>> manual intervention to make Folders display this way:
>>>
>>> - People
>>> Mike
>>> Donna
>>> Xavier
>>>
>>> or collapsed:
>>>
>>> + People
>>>
>>> The manual intervention involved going to my physical ~/mail folder area
>>> using the unix command shell. (or wherever Dovecot stores your saved
>>> personal folders in your system, in mine it's configured to be ~/mail)
>>>
>>> Once there, "mkdir People"
>>>
>>> Now back in Squirrelmail go to the "Folders" Unsubscribe/Subscribe
>>> area. Locate "People" (I found mine all the way at the bottom of the
>>> list, not in the order I was expecting, so you may have to look
>>> carefully at your list) and -Subscribe- to this empty Folder. Refresh
>>> your browser window and this new folder will show up in Blue in between
>>> all the Black "Mail Folders". From there you can use SquirrelMail to
>>> add regular MailFolders to this new "Collection" subdirectory, and as
>>> you subscribe to each, they will be displayed under the collapsible list
>>> (after a "Folder Refresh"). Remember, you -must- subscribe to the top
>>> level "Collection" name you created using "mkdir", or it won't show.
>>>
>>> I don't see or know of any ability to do this in SquirrelMail, so it has
>>> to be done manually. I don't know if the ability to do this is missing
>>> because Dovecot doesn't support this, or it's some sort of oversight, or
>>> just my own lack of not knowing how. It doesn't matter, here is a manual
>>> workaround to achieve what you requested, and once done, SquirrelMail
>>> does support this "Collection" structure correctly, and quite nicely.
>>>
>>> What is a little confusing is "Folders", where it says "Create Folder"
>>> is talking about making a "Mail Folder", a "file" in the unix file
>>> system for saving email messages. Not a directory (Folder) in the file
>>> system to create a *Collection* of Mail Folders.
>>>
>>> With a small amount of command line work you can get your Collections of
>>> Mail Folders organized the way you want. You will of course have to
>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe all the changes you made at the file system level
>>> so they are reflected properly in SquirrelMail/Dovecot. Once done, you
>>> can use this structure as you'd expect.
>>>
>>> This is not just a SquirrelMail issue, I have the same issue in
>>> Thunderbird through the Dovecot IMAP server. So I'm not sure where the
>>> issue lies which prevents this being done through our Mailtools.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps you get to where you want to go.
>>>
>>> Craig
>>>
>>>
>>> On 05/21/2014 02:12 PM, Bryan wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I can provide versions, but this is something that I've always just
>>>> ignored as an annoyance, now one of my users is asking me to fix it. I
>>>> have spent hours on this and I either lack the proper words to describe
>>>> this, or the search is so cluttered with "." and INBOX configuration
>>>> concerns that I can't pick the solution out of the soup, nor can I even
>>>> find someone posting a question like this.
>>>>
>>>> Here's the story and any help would be greatly appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> I have a Dovecot/IMAP system usage is configured for folders can only
>>>> contain sub-folders or e-mail. Not both.
>>>>
>>>> On the server and the users' mail folder looks like such (not a complete
>>>> list just for illustration):
>>>>
>>>> ~/mail/.Sent
>>>> ~/mail/.folder1.folderA
>>>> ~/mail/.folder1.folderB
>>>> ~/mail/.folder2
>>>> ------------------------
>>>> In Thunderbird I see:
>>>>
>>>> Sent
>>>> Folder1 (folder contains folder, shown in nav only)
>>>> FolderA (folder contains e-mails)
>>>> FolderB (folder contains e-mails)
>>>> Folder2 (folder contains e-mails)
>>>> ------------------------
>>>> In Squirrelmail I see:
>>>>
>>>> Sent
>>>> FolderA
>>>> FolderB
>>>> Folder2
>>>> ------------------------
>>>>
>>>> With all that data, my question is, how do I get Squirrelmail to show
>>>> "Folder1" in the navigation tree, when no such folder exists on the file
>>>> system.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance for any help.
>>>>
>>>> Bryan
>>>>
>>>>
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Hi Craig, I'm very sorry if I've wasted anyone's time. I was careful to
indicate that I
wasn't sure where to go with this, and I am thankful for the feedback.
As for versions:
I'm running:
Dovecot/2.0.9
SquirrelMail/1.4.22-4.el6
Thunderbird 17.0.7 then pushed out an update to 24.5.0 to see if
anything changed. Thunderbird is still displaying correctly.
I guess I'm going to just run with your suggestion to fix up the one
user so they're happy and not worry
about it for now. I really appreciate your help and feedback.
Thank-you again!
Bryan
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