-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 11 August 2003 17:42, ___cliff rayman___ wrote: > Jonathan Gardner wrote: > >I actually read the quoted parts before the reply, to catch up with the > > topic. Having the quotes at the top means I can read the post from > > top-to-bottom rather than bottom-to-top. > > i only need to do this for e-mail messages that are sent with a large > time delay, or for a thread > i was not following, but decided was interesting in the middle. in this > case, i can scroll down > to read more details. > Since you are writing to a list, you have to remember that those two situations -- the long time delay and the thread you weren't following -- apply for all of the people reading the list that didn't make the post. I think that is the key you are missing: There are thousands -- maybe even hundreds of thousands -- of subscribers on this list. You are just one of them. The world, and this list, does not revolve around you. You are extremely selfish to not think of them with every post you make. > >This method actually saves me a tremendous amount of time. It has become > > the standard on USENET and most mailing lists that I can think of. These > > people have tried numerous ways and different ideas, and in the end, the > > best idea won. I think you should try it first before complaining. > > i read bottom > posted e-mails > everyday and for the past 15 years. i find it very frustrating to > scroll to simply read the reply, > hence, i responded to this thread. i want users out there to > understand that there is more > than one way of thinking about this issue. doesn't RFC stand for > "Request For Comments"? Just like in most European and American countries, we shake hands to make others feel welcome and to introduce ourselves, we bottom-post on mailing lists and on USENET. That's become the social norm, regardless of RFCs or codified standards or the IETF. Just like you would find it really weird if I gave you a wet kiss when I introduced myself to you the first time, I (and many thousands of others) find it strange when you top-post and use more than 80 columns in your email. In fact, it is annoying and rude. - -- Jonathan Gardner <jgardner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Live Free, Use Linux! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/OPTFWgwF3QvpWNwRAjFmAKDBH8vqq2UI0dv3Q9uBucHnrvSKQgCg5tND ln6/VgukKDlx3XKJkK9ZnwI= =nU93 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Shrike-list mailing list Shrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/shrike-list
