Hello Bill, Tuesday, June 24, 2003, 4:53:00 PM, you textually orated: BG> Are there any professional Programmers on this list? BG> In particular, I'm a C/C++ bigot looking for someone to help convince me BG> to become a Java bigot instead. 8-) BG> I get the feeling I'm missing out by not knowing and writing Java, but BG> there are a few things I don't like about the language/environment and BG> I'd like to trade a few emails with a knowledgeable individual. Off list BG> would probably be best. While I'm not an avid Java programmer, the one thing it does have over C/C++ is that there is a game to learn how to program in Java... http://robocode.alphaworks.ibm.com/home/home.html Have fun, -- _________________________________________________________________ Brian Ashe CTO rhlist@xxxxxxxxxxx Dee-Web Software Services, LLC. http://www.dee-web.com/ -----------------------------------------------------------------