-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 08 Mar 2003 18:21:43 -0800, Harry Putnam wrote: > >> installed with talk are: > >> /usr/bin/talk > >> /usr/share/man/man1/talk.1.gz > >> > >> No talkd which is mentioned in the `see also' part of `talk' manpage. > >> > >> This led me to think I needed another package `talk-server' but > >> installing it causes `talk' to be uninstalled and vice versa. > > > > Querying the rpms doesn't yield anything like that. The talk-server > > packages only obsoletes an older "ntalk" package. > > Doesn't yield anything like what? What I posted was a direct result > of a query: > rpm -ql talk > /usr/bin/talk > /usr/share/man/man1/talk.1.gz I meant querying a package with option "--obsoletes" to see whether installation of the "talk-server" package would remove any other package. Below you gave the steps on how to reproduce your problem: > I have talk-0.17-17 installed: > rpm -qa |grep talk > talk-0.17-17 > With this only, none of the files you showed below are installed > > /etc/xinetd.d/ntalk > > /etc/xinetd.d/talk > > /usr/sbin/in.ntalkd > > /usr/sbin/in.talkd > > But note that the `talk' command is available: > > which talk > /usr/bin/talk > > So attempting to install talk-server > like: > up2date -i talk-server > > Now note that talk-0.17-17 is gone: > > rpm -qa |grep talk > talk-server-0.17-17 - From talk package changelog for Phoebe 8.0.94 where I cannot reproduce it with up2date: * Tue Feb 04 2003 Tim Waugh <twaugh@redhat.com> 0.17-20 - Only one of the built packages should obsolete/provide ntalk. It seems you have found something related. What happens if you install both packages with rpm -ivvh? Both "talk-server" and "talk" provide "ntalk" and also obsolete "ntalk". Maybe that caused a problem as of Psyche. # rpm -qp --provides talk-0.17-17.i386.rpm ntalk talk = 0.17-17 # rpm -qp --obsoletes talk-0.17-17.i386.rpm ntalk # rpm -qp --provides talk-server-0.17-17.i386.rpm ntalk talk-server = 0.17-17 # rpm -qp --obsoletes talk-server-0.17-17.i386.rpm ntalk Anyway, for talk to work you would need to install both packages. ;-) - -- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+azA90iMVcrivHFQRAn6NAJ9YH48o0OZey2VuOmLuMS6hBEVWtwCfbMyU Ge5kTS8lhHYsncNbY79+M8M= =0ftd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Psyche-list mailing list Psyche-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list