On Sat, 18 Jan 2003, Andre Costa wrote: >> >> Last but not least, maybe you're indeed getting RawHide wrong; it >> >> suffers from the same conceptual flaw all RPM-based distros suffer: >> >> there is no automatic way of retrieving all packages necessary for >> >a> specific installation because dependencies cannot be resolved >> >> automatically (a la Debian's apt-get). RawHide is merely a >> >repository> for bleeding-edge packages. >> > >> >Yes, that is a little bit irritating with rpm. >> >> Irritating perhaps to some. But intentional. > >You mean that the lack of ability to realize all dependencies for a >package recursively (and, even better, to automatically do necessary >upgrades) is intentional? The lack of rawhide working with up2date is intentional. Rawhide is developmental packages, and not intended for end users to be using in production environments. Rawhide packages can be completely broken at any point in time, and can totally hose your system. Having up2date freely and easily allow Harry Homeowner to blow away his system on a whim without understanding the total consequences of his actions, or without even really understanding just what rawhide really is, and then having him blame up2date for destroying his system, is not the type of thing that we want up2date represented by. There are other reasons as well, but I don't feel the need to go into them here because: 1) This discussion is now off topic for this mailing list 2) Discussion/debate of this will result in no change, and is thus a waste of everyone's time 3) I have no personal intereste in debating the issue >I know up2date and RedCarpet try to solve this, but my >experience with RedCarpet so far isn't the best, and AFAIK >up2date is meant to provide "safe updates" (i.e. it only gives >me access to "official" updates packages). Please feel free to >correct me if I am wrong ;) Precicely. up2date is the vehicle for delivering updated packages via Red Hat Network. It updates the current OS you are running to the latest updated packages for that OS release. Rawhide is not an OS release, it is an ongoing mishmash of packages that represent the internal development tree. Rawhide is provided only to allow people to test individual packages, etc. and is not intended to be an installable tree. Rawhide may have packages in it and have the dependancies missing. Many other caveats could exist in rawhide. Let's please let this thread die now, as it does not suit the purpose of this mailing list. For the record... This list was created in order for me to have a method of announcing new test packages of XFree86 to beta testers, and to discuss issues related to testing of XFree86. It also is a general forum for discussing XFree86 related issues pertaining to Red Hat Linux. I'd prefer it if we don't clutter it with off topic debates. Thanks. -- Mike A. Harris ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris OS Systems Engineer - XFree86 maintainer - Red Hat _______________________________________________ xfree86-list mailing list xfree86-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/xfree86-list IRC: #xfree86 on irc.redhat.com
