FWIW, not sure if they are available in 4TB sizes: but for my home server, I've been using the Helium-filled drives, originally from Hitachi, now using Seagates as well. No issues, but this is a terribly small sample size. What I like is that they have the heat and power consumption characteristics of 5400rpm drives, but are actually running at 7200rpm and the performance of such. They also seem to fall in the "enterprise" lineup, so have longer warranties and TLER. Last I bought some (a couple months ago), they were actually cheaper than their non-helium equivalents. On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 9:10 AM, Roger Heflin <rogerheflin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I have a seagate ironwolf, a seagate SV35, several WD reds. I have 6 > WD reds, The oldest is >3 years and the youngest is about a year. I > have only had to RMA one of them from bad sectors and it was 2+ years > old at the time. The WD reds and the Ironwolf have scterc set down to > 10 (1 second). I have the most of the WD reds, and I believe they > are 2 separate generations of 3TB reds ( bought in several batches of > 1 or 2). > > 3TB Iron Wolf smartctl: > === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === > Device Model: ST3000VN007-XXXXXX > Serial Number: XXXXXX > LU WWN Device Id: XXXXXX > Firmware Version: SC60 > User Capacity: 3,000,592,982,016 bytes [3.00 TB] > Sector Sizes: 512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical > Rotation Rate: 5900 rpm > Form Factor: 3.5 inches > Device is: Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall] > ATA Version is: ACS-2, ACS-3 T13/2161-D revision 3b > SATA Version is: SATA 3.1, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 1.5 Gb/s) > Local Time is: Tue Apr 10 09:04:59 2018 CDT > SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability. > SMART support is: Enabled > > === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === > SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED > > General SMART Values: > Offline data collection status: (0x00) Offline data collection activity > was never started. > Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled. > Self-test execution status: ( 41) The self-test routine was interrupted > by the host with a hard or soft reset. > Total time to complete Offline > data collection: ( 107) seconds. > Offline data collection > capabilities: (0x73) SMART execute Offline immediate. > Auto Offline data collection > on/off support. > Suspend Offline collection upon new > command. > No Offline surface scan supported. > Self-test supported. > Conveyance Self-test supported. > Selective Self-test supported. > SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering > power-saving mode. > Supports SMART auto save timer. > Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported. > General Purpose Logging supported. > Short self-test routine > recommended polling time: ( 1) minutes. > Extended self-test routine > recommended polling time: ( 389) minutes. > Conveyance self-test routine > recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes. > SCT capabilities: (0x10bd) SCT Status supported. > SCT Error Recovery Control supported. > SCT Feature Control supported. > SCT Data Table supported. > > SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 10 > Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: > ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE > UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE > 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f 114 099 006 Pre-fail > Always - 67576632 > 3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0003 097 094 000 Pre-fail > Always - 0 > 4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 100 100 020 Old_age > Always - 369 > 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 100 100 010 Pre-fail > Always - 0 > 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000f 081 060 030 Pre-fail > Always - 153198399 > 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 088 088 000 Old_age > Always - 10610 > 10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 097 Pre-fail > Always - 0 > 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 020 Old_age > Always - 10 > 184 End-to-End_Error 0x0032 100 100 099 Old_age > Always - 0 > 187 Reported_Uncorrect 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age > Always - 0 > 188 Command_Timeout 0x0032 100 096 000 Old_age > Always - 197986 > 189 High_Fly_Writes 0x003a 039 039 000 Old_age > Always - 61 > 190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022 070 066 045 Old_age > Always - 30 (Min/Max 22/31) > 191 G-Sense_Error_Rate 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age > Always - 0 > 192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age > Always - 4 > 193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age > Always - 396 > 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 030 040 000 Old_age > Always - 30 (0 14 0 0 0) > 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age > Always - 0 > 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0010 100 100 000 Old_age > Offline - 0 > 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x003e 200 196 000 Old_age > Always - 85589 > > SMART Error Log Version: 1 > No Errors Logged > > On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 4:12 AM, Wols Lists <antlists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> On 10/04/18 03:55, John Stoffel wrote: >>> Wol> If you want to go down the Seagate route (I like them), look at >>> Wol> the IronWolf drives. I've bought two 4TB drives - *not* the pro >>> Wol> model, but I can't give you any detailed information because >>> Wol> they're currently in my new system that I need to debug before it >>> Wol> will boot :-( >>> >>> Can I get you to boot a liveCD and get the info that way? Pretty >>> please? :-) >> >> Sorry, (1) the system is in my garage waiting for me to get time, and >> (2) "won't boot" means "doesn't even POST", so sticking a CD in the >> drive will achieve absolutely nothing. >> >> I did buy the IronWolf because I had investigated them and thought they >> would be good for raid. Unfortunately, nobody's sent me the smartctl >> output from an IronWolf to put on the wiki. If anyone has one, can they >> post the output from "smartctl -x", pretty please? >> >> Sorry. >> >> Cheers, >> Wol >> -- >> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-raid" in >> the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > -- > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-raid" in > the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-raid" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
