I have a seagate ironwolf, a seagate SV35, several WD reds. I have 6 WD reds, The oldest is >3 years and the youngest is about a year. I have only had to RMA one of them from bad sectors and it was 2+ years old at the time. The WD reds and the Ironwolf have scterc set down to 10 (1 second). I have the most of the WD reds, and I believe they are 2 separate generations of 3TB reds ( bought in several batches of 1 or 2). 3TB Iron Wolf smartctl: === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Device Model: ST3000VN007-XXXXXX Serial Number: XXXXXX LU WWN Device Id: XXXXXX Firmware Version: SC60 User Capacity: 3,000,592,982,016 bytes [3.00 TB] Sector Sizes: 512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical Rotation Rate: 5900 rpm Form Factor: 3.5 inches Device is: Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall] ATA Version is: ACS-2, ACS-3 T13/2161-D revision 3b SATA Version is: SATA 3.1, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 1.5 Gb/s) Local Time is: Tue Apr 10 09:04:59 2018 CDT SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability. SMART support is: Enabled === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED General SMART Values: Offline data collection status: (0x00) Offline data collection activity was never started. Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled. Self-test execution status: ( 41) The self-test routine was interrupted by the host with a hard or soft reset. Total time to complete Offline data collection: ( 107) seconds. Offline data collection capabilities: (0x73) SMART execute Offline immediate. Auto Offline data collection on/off support. Suspend Offline collection upon new command. No Offline surface scan supported. Self-test supported. Conveyance Self-test supported. Selective Self-test supported. SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering power-saving mode. Supports SMART auto save timer. Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported. General Purpose Logging supported. Short self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 1) minutes. Extended self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 389) minutes. Conveyance self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes. SCT capabilities: (0x10bd) SCT Status supported. SCT Error Recovery Control supported. SCT Feature Control supported. SCT Data Table supported. SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 10 Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f 114 099 006 Pre-fail Always - 67576632 3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0003 097 094 000 Pre-fail Always - 0 4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 100 100 020 Old_age Always - 369 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 100 100 010 Pre-fail Always - 0 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000f 081 060 030 Pre-fail Always - 153198399 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 088 088 000 Old_age Always - 10610 10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 097 Pre-fail Always - 0 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 020 Old_age Always - 10 184 End-to-End_Error 0x0032 100 100 099 Old_age Always - 0 187 Reported_Uncorrect 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 188 Command_Timeout 0x0032 100 096 000 Old_age Always - 197986 189 High_Fly_Writes 0x003a 039 039 000 Old_age Always - 61 190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022 070 066 045 Old_age Always - 30 (Min/Max 22/31) 191 G-Sense_Error_Rate 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 4 193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 396 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 030 040 000 Old_age Always - 30 (0 14 0 0 0) 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0010 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x003e 200 196 000 Old_age Always - 85589 SMART Error Log Version: 1 No Errors Logged On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 4:12 AM, Wols Lists <antlists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 10/04/18 03:55, John Stoffel wrote: >> Wol> If you want to go down the Seagate route (I like them), look at >> Wol> the IronWolf drives. I've bought two 4TB drives - *not* the pro >> Wol> model, but I can't give you any detailed information because >> Wol> they're currently in my new system that I need to debug before it >> Wol> will boot :-( >> >> Can I get you to boot a liveCD and get the info that way? Pretty >> please? :-) > > Sorry, (1) the system is in my garage waiting for me to get time, and > (2) "won't boot" means "doesn't even POST", so sticking a CD in the > drive will achieve absolutely nothing. > > I did buy the IronWolf because I had investigated them and thought they > would be good for raid. Unfortunately, nobody's sent me the smartctl > output from an IronWolf to put on the wiki. If anyone has one, can they > post the output from "smartctl -x", pretty please? > > Sorry. > > Cheers, > Wol > -- > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-raid" in > the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-raid" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html