Re: 4tb NAS drive recommendation

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I have a seagate ironwolf, a seagate SV35, several WD reds.  I have 6
WD reds, The oldest is >3 years and the youngest is about a year.  I
have only had to RMA one of them from bad sectors and it was 2+ years
old at the time.  The WD reds and the Ironwolf have scterc set down to
10 (1 second).    I have the most of the WD reds, and I believe they
are 2 separate generations of 3TB reds ( bought in several batches of
1 or 2).

3TB Iron Wolf smartctl:
=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Device Model:     ST3000VN007-XXXXXX
Serial Number:    XXXXXX
LU WWN Device Id: XXXXXX
Firmware Version: SC60
User Capacity:    3,000,592,982,016 bytes [3.00 TB]
Sector Sizes:     512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical
Rotation Rate:    5900 rpm
Form Factor:      3.5 inches
Device is:        Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall]
ATA Version is:   ACS-2, ACS-3 T13/2161-D revision 3b
SATA Version is:  SATA 3.1, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 1.5 Gb/s)
Local Time is:    Tue Apr 10 09:04:59 2018 CDT
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status:  (0x00) Offline data collection activity
                                        was never started.
                                        Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled.
Self-test execution status:      (  41) The self-test routine was interrupted
                                        by the host with a hard or soft reset.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection:                (  107) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities:                    (0x73) SMART execute Offline immediate.
                                        Auto Offline data collection
on/off support.
                                        Suspend Offline collection upon new
                                        command.
                                        No Offline surface scan supported.
                                        Self-test supported.
                                        Conveyance Self-test supported.
                                        Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities:            (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
                                        power-saving mode.
                                        Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability:        (0x01) Error logging supported.
                                        General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time:        (   1) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time:        ( 389) minutes.
Conveyance self-test routine
recommended polling time:        (   2) minutes.
SCT capabilities:              (0x10bd) SCT Status supported.
                                        SCT Error Recovery Control supported.
                                        SCT Feature Control supported.
                                        SCT Data Table supported.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 10
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE
UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x000f   114   099   006    Pre-fail
Always       -       67576632
  3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0003   097   094   000    Pre-fail
Always       -       0
  4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0032   100   100   020    Old_age
Always       -       369
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   010    Pre-fail
Always       -       0
  7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x000f   081   060   030    Pre-fail
Always       -       153198399
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   088   088   000    Old_age
Always       -       10610
 10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0013   100   100   097    Pre-fail
Always       -       0
 12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   020    Old_age
Always       -       10
184 End-to-End_Error        0x0032   100   100   099    Old_age
Always       -       0
187 Reported_Uncorrect      0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age
Always       -       0
188 Command_Timeout         0x0032   100   096   000    Old_age
Always       -       197986
189 High_Fly_Writes         0x003a   039   039   000    Old_age
Always       -       61
190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022   070   066   045    Old_age
Always       -       30 (Min/Max 22/31)
191 G-Sense_Error_Rate      0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age
Always       -       0
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age
Always       -       4
193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age
Always       -       396
194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   030   040   000    Old_age
Always       -       30 (0 14 0 0 0)
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0012   100   100   000    Old_age
Always       -       0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0010   100   100   000    Old_age
Offline      -       0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x003e   200   196   000    Old_age
Always       -       85589

SMART Error Log Version: 1
No Errors Logged

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 4:12 AM, Wols Lists <antlists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On 10/04/18 03:55, John Stoffel wrote:
>> Wol> If you want to go down the Seagate route (I like them), look at
>> Wol> the IronWolf drives. I've bought two 4TB drives - *not* the pro
>> Wol> model, but I can't give you any detailed information because
>> Wol> they're currently in my new system that I need to debug before it
>> Wol> will boot :-(
>>
>> Can I get you to boot a liveCD and get the info that way?  Pretty
>> please?  :-)
>
> Sorry, (1) the system is in my garage waiting for me to get time, and
> (2) "won't boot" means "doesn't even POST", so sticking a CD in the
> drive will achieve absolutely nothing.
>
> I did buy the IronWolf because I had investigated them and thought they
> would be good for raid. Unfortunately, nobody's sent me the smartctl
> output from an IronWolf to put on the wiki. If anyone has one, can they
> post the output from "smartctl -x", pretty please?
>
> Sorry.
>
> Cheers,
> Wol
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