Thank you to all who have replied. I was worried that it would become too
off-topic after the first few responses, so I respectfully would like to
close the discussion.
A lot of really good insight about job titles has come out of this thread,
and I want to thank all of you who posted their thoughts.
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Peter
On Fri, 25 Apr 2003, Scott Winkle wrote:
> I just want to add that I agree...
>
> I work in a liberal arts university with horrible politics. I have had
> for the last 3 years the title 'Temporary Assistant Webmaster', Even
> though I was not temporary (Only for the first 90 days period, but thats
> a long story not needing discussed here), I was not an assistant to
> anyone, and for the last 2 years my only job has been PHP Development
> and Web Server Management. My title is soon changing...I think to Portal
> Developer, but if I had to offer advice, the titles should be considered
> irrelevant. Especially in this environment which HR and
> (Upper-)Management know nothing about the difference between me and a
> plain old web page maintainer.
> I have not recieved any performance raises, this place does not offer
> any. You only get a raise if the university decides to give one to
> everyone (3-5% a year), or you move up in the food chain (no room for
> that for the single permanent PHP Programmer on campus).
>
> My advice to the original starter of this thread: Pick a title, any
> title, that you like. Use that. I do. No one cares. One really inflated
> one I have used is 'Internet Applications Engineer'
>
> Now with that said, lets return to the wonderful world of PHP Databases.
>
> -Skot
>
> Doug Thompson wrote:
>
> >The point is his company/manager are FOA because there is no written job description. It is my experience (decades' worth) that the company (read management) don't view the position as they should. There are apparently no objective criteria against which to measure performance. There is only the usual morass of favoritism, subjective assessments, and politicking which are fine for liberal arts majors but deadly in a technical environment when it comes time to discuss performance and raises. People truly performing in a technical role don't have time to spend away from the work to kiss up.
> >
> >This thread is really off topic. Can we get back to PHP and databases now?
> >
> >Doug
> >
> >
> >On Fri, 25 Apr 2003 06:40:07 -0700 (PDT), Mark wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>You're kidding, right? So you're basically saying this guy's job
> >>isn't relevant. Nice.
> >>
> >>I can't remember the last job I had that had a formal job description
> >>published. Maybe at a monolithic million person company where they
> >>can't keep track of who is doing what in their 50,000 person IT shop.
> >>Most companies I've seen (outside government organizations) seem to
> >>wing it more than that, particularly in IT.
> >>
> >>
> >>--- Doug Thompson <dthompson@brickbarn.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>If the job were relevant, it would have a written description and
> >>>title published by the company and you wouldn't be facing this
> >>>dilemma.
> >>>
> >>>My $0.02,
> >>>
> >>>Doug
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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