Re: Re: Programmers and developers needed

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On 12-09-18 02:38 PM, Jeff Burcher wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Cummings [mailto:robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 2:22 PM
To: Matijn Woudt
Cc: Daevid Vincent; PHP-General
Subject: Re:  Re: Programmers and developers needed

On 12-09-18 02:12 PM, Matijn Woudt wrote:
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 8:02 PM, Daevid Vincent <daevid@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: Matijn Woudt [mailto:tijnema@xxxxxxxxx]

You're missing the most important aspect of social networks..
Advertising.

Please tell me that is said sarcastically. Advertising is the cancer of the
internet. There was a time when there weren't ad banners, interstitials, pop-
ups, pop-unders, spam, and all the other bullshit you have to sift through on
a daily basis.


No,  I was not meant to be sarcastic. You might find advertising to be
the cancer of the internet, think again. The internet would be pretty
much dead without ads, or would you rather pay $0.01 per Google search
query? $0.01 for each e-mail send, $0.01 for each news article you
want to read, etc, etc? (or more related, $0.01 for each facebook
message you want to send/read?)

In the end, good advertising means success, take the drop of facebook
shares because of the investors being worried about facebooks'
advertising possibilities.

History suggests the internet would be here without advertising since it
originated without advertising, originally grew without advertising, and finally
evolved into this mixed blessing we have today. There's plenty of greatness
on the internet, there's also plenty of steaming piles of manure.

Cheers,
Rob.

Yeah, it grew out of government funding before advertising via educational
> institutions and the military. Would you rather have a free economy
> supported internet or a government controlled internet? Also, for those
> of us who are old enough to remember posting to text based bulletin boards, > the influx of corporate money has greatly increased the infrastructure and > functionality of the internet and has helped to make it a global phenomenon, > which a government supported internet may have never become. Money makes all
things possible. If you don't think so, try building a server farm and
> hooking up to a trunk line without it. My two cents. Now, I'm broke.

You're making me wax philosophical... Money doesn't make all things possible. Time and energy make all things possible. Money is just a convenient placeholder for time and energy.

At any rate, you're making the assumption that advertising was a necessary ingredient. It was not... nor does it's absence guarantee a government controlled internet. You have a logical fallacy in your argument above, but I'm too lazy to look up which one (or which ones), but I can smell it (them) ;)

Cheers,
Rob.
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