@tedd I was interested about the reasons why people perceive php as a poor language. I came across the following stackoverflow thread: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/309300/defend-php-convince-me-it-isnt-horrible The guy answering him immediately after brought up some very good rebuttals, however, there are some really fundamental things that people have come to expect from programming languages that php doesn't offer and this is probably why people have issues with it. Two in particular, that people might have issues with, were brought up: 1. method/function name insensitivity 2. inconsistent naming of built in and library functions However, since this is an open-source project behind some of the biggest internet based businesses, I am personally quite fond of it. I have no issues with the language as the above two points can easily be countered with a good IDE or a little experience. Finally, I would like to say, if you are going to look for it, you can find faults with any and all programming languages. It comes down to preference, that is why you have people in the industry coding things with Java instead of C++, or vice versa, even though the other might be better for the application. On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Steve Staples <sstaples@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Tue, 2011-02-15 at 15:54 -0500, tedd wrote: > > At 2:20 PM -0500 2/15/11, Mujtaba Arshad wrote: > > >I would say all languages have their 'lousy developers', however, since > very > > >few schools focus on teaching the 'proper coding style' for PHP it leads > to > > >people learning from a variety of resources available online, and this > leads > > >to them receiving mixed messages from the tutorials and allowing people > the > > >ability to choose the method they prefer. Since there is very little > > >syntactic consistency among the code produced by developers, it leads to > the > > >perception that the developers are 'lousy'. > > > > I don't know if I buy that or not -- I didn't learn programming in > school. > > > > I learned by using rocks instead of ones. It was a few years later > > that we created the concept of using the absence of rocks as zeros > > and were finally able to build things other than pyramids. > > > > Style became a matter of choice -- it's what makes sense to you and > > that usually works. > > > > For example, while it's true that Rob and I disagree on brace style, > > there are many different types to choose from. > > > > This is what I show my students: > > > > http://rebel.lcc.edu/sperlt/citw229/brace-styles.php > > > > Cheers, > > > > tedd > > > > -- > > ------- > > http://sperling.com/ > > > > Tedd: > > Your bracing style is WRONG. Whitesmiths Style sucks... and Allman > Style is the best way to do it. > > :) > > > My personal bracing style is the Allman Style... I've been doing it that > way forever, it just made sense to me (even before I knew there was that > style name... which was about 3 minutes ago). everything lined up nice > and neat. > > Steve > > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > -- Mujtaba
