On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 18:24, Michael Shadle <mike503@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > note, that i take the time to bottom-post and clean up emails when i > have time, but if i don't, i don't. people discuss things for > discussion, they don't discuss things because they care how it is > placed. that's like getting a present and whining about the wrapping > paper. Unfortunately, Michael, while I appreciate your analogy (rarely is something well-balanced between wit, truth, and vivid imagery enough to make me laugh at the mental picture), I must point out that, in this case, you're incorrect. We do not operate this list for purposes of discussion; this is a support list. While it frequently [d]evolves into discussion - which is quite welcome to perpetuate the vibrancy of the community at large, our intent for this list is to be used as a means of peer support for those active on the list and reading the archives alike. In fact, the very description of the list is "a high volume list for general PHP support; ask PHP questions here," though - admittedly, at times - it should probably read, "this is a fantastic place to be flamed, trolled, disrespected, receive condescending admonishment by elitists and those who believe they deploy odorless feces, and yet still come back for more because - surprisingly - those are the same folks who will give you your answers, you punishment-relishing glutton." -- </Daniel P. Brown> Network Infrastructure Manager Documentation, Webmaster Teams http://www.php.net/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php