Noe that the debuger chapter is closed, and you actually did create a error tracker helper and try to return them client side, I can understand that you are frustrated by the poor php layer and support regarding exception handling, but on this point as a lot of people answer you we are doing that server side, if you are developing in a MVC environment you don't need the view to debug your model. Best, On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 9:13 AM, mm w <0xcafefeed@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hello Andrea, > > I did not mean to hurt you, my point was: beeing a Jerk when it's > ending in void conflicts with people, if you don't like their > comments, just don't answer to people. > > For my concern, a program cannot be debuged by itself (especially > with a scripting language, we almost did a joke by saying that too), > to debug you need real debug symbols exposed and catchable the only > to have them: you must have a php-zen-debug build, unfortunately it is > not an optional feature to run the interpreter in this mode, you can > only have it at compile time, thing that is impossible to predicate > and have due the different platform support extensions, > > secondable, what you are doing is not a debuger, it's a run-time error > tracker, to make a debuger you need to run a session of the > interpreter (exposing real debug symbols) into your own exception > handler program e.g a debuger, debuging php-script using php-script > is a non-sense, beside this it could be done using DTrace > unfortunately not available on every OS. > > Best > > On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Andrea Giammarchi <an_red@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> Hello Andrea, >>> >>> I am developing with PHP since now 12 years (did a couple stuff in >>> Zend Core), and was one of a few guy using and sharing about php when >>> it was only an THE Apache mode in the world C++ CGI, I am not Zend >>> Certified, I won't :), anyway those things make me smarter or give me >>> the "truth" or the right to be a jerk?, >> >> Which part is jerk, people starting replying without even looking for 1 >> minute the project page? >> >> People saying: what's wrong with set_error_handler, ignoring it does not >> catch all errors? >> >> Or people saying: if nobody did before it means it should not be done, as if >> the programming world and all ideas ended years ago? >> >> I wrote my skills summary just to tell you: hey guys, I am not the last >> arrived here, so do not threat me as a noob please, OK? >> >> I prefer answers such: I am using this other program, application, strategy, >> and I do not need it >> rather then people writing unrelated stuff or linking pages that perfectly >> represent the Formaldehyde scenario but they did not even spend a minute to >> read what Formaldehyde is so proud of theirself and their intuition ... >> right? They confirmed they did not read, so WTF? >> >> I was expecting somebody that develop massive Ajax application, not a link >> with 3 pages and zero point about the reply. >> >> >>> you came here to claim that you were right not to discuss, what did >>> you expect?, if you want to discuss we can, but I can tell you I don't >>> share your points at all, it is not my way to code in scripting >>> language. back to silence. >>> >>> Best >> >> I never discuss if I do not know what I am discussing about, this is my only >> point. >> >> Best >> >> ________________________________ >> See all the ways you can stay connected to friends and family > -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
