Re: Re: Opinions / Votes Needed

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"Nathan Rixham" <nrixham@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message 
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> Tony Marston wrote:
>> "Stuart" <stuttle@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message 
>> news:a5f019de0901181322i2a4cbfaam4d36eff843f42300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> 2009/1/18 Tony Marston <tony@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>>>> In case you have forgotten what this thread is about, the OP gave a 
>>>> list of
>>>> suggested "improvements" to PHP and asked for opinions. I merely gave 
>>>> my
>>>> opinion that these "improvements" would be a waste of time as they 
>>>> would add
>>>> nothing to the language (IMHO, of course). How many in this frum have
>>>> expressed any support for any of these "improvements"?
>>> That's not the point. You attacked the suggester not the suggestions.
>>> That's all I'm trying to point out. There's a way to disagree in a
>>> reasonable manner.
>>
>> Anybody who suggests that PHP be changed from dynamic typing to static 
>> typing is feeble minded, one brick short of a full load, one sandwich 
>> short of a picnic, off his trolley, talking out of the wrong end of his 
>> alimentary canal, etc, etc. In my humble opinion, of course.
>
> luckily.. nobody suggested that

You suggested that. You original post specifically said "static typing" and 
not "type hinting". There is a BIG difference.

-- 
Tony Marston
http://www.tonymarston.net
http://www.radicore.org

> and the only person who came close was tony himself :D perhaps the phrase 
> "optional type hinting of variables and class properties" is more 
> appropriate ;)
>
>>>> "not be feasible" covers "loss of performance", "loss of BC" and "a 
>>>> whole
>>>> bunch of other issues". If the cost of implementing your "improvements" 
>>>> is
>>>> not worth the dubious benefit then why should they considered?
>>> Without adequate investigation or comment from people who actually
>>> know about this stuff it's impossible to say whether the costs are too
>>> great to make them acceptable against the benefits.
>>>
>>> OO had a massive negative effect on performance, but it still happened
>>> because the benefits greatly outweighed the costs. IMHO all ideas
>>> should be properly considered, regardless of my gut reaction to them.
>>
>> Statuic typing is unworthy of consideration in a language whch has made 
>> its bones from being dynamically typed. In my humble opinion, of course.
>>
>
> luckily.. nobody suggested that and the only person who came close was 
> tony himself :D perhaps the phrase "optional type hinting of variables and 
> class properties" is more appropriate ;)
>
> ground hog day! 



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