[snip] > [snip] > If you don't use a framework then obviously you are writing nothing but > mickey mouse programs, and wouldn't stand a chance when it comes to > writing a proper application. >......If you think you can achieve the same > level of productivity WITHOUT a framework then you are living in cloud >\cuckoo land. >\[/snip] > > Tony is obviously joking here folks. No I'm not. [/snip] My mistake, you must be trolling. I forgot that you were better than all of the other PHP developers combined +1 says the President of Cuckoo Land. (I attempted to defend you so that your tone would not be offensive to others...oh well) You're right to a point, developers of large scale applications in PHP will likely re-use code and thereby develop even a small framework but a framework is not required to create robust, scalable, large scale applications in PHP. Certainly there will be a much higher time/management factor involved but there are several non-mickey mouse proper programs written in PHP that used no framework what-so-ever. Different strokes for different folks. Is there a value to a framework? Of course there is. Are there cons? Every framework comes with its own set of gotcha's too. What framework should you use? There are so many that it would be hard to know...it depends on the size and the scope of the work to be done. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
