>I'm guessing, since you quoted os-commerce and phpBB, you don't know >shit code when you see it. Just because it's popular doesn't mean the >code is good. Have you ever tried to modify either of these? What a >mess. honestly, i don't and not really interested to dig inside thus code. but i guess, modifying the phpBB code not easier than modifying the core of codeIgniter or CakePHP. > 10k lines of code built over a framework is not the same as 10k lines > that essentially required you to build your own framework. since framework already included a thousand line of code even before you start to do the program, i think it will be less code if we start to write the program on our own. Not to mention, the framework core take a lot of diskspace. some more than 2MB of code. My client is a small2 company. i manage to write code less than 300KB to do everything they ask me to do. Sure, i do not need all thus fancy feature (caching etc), i do not need multiple user or role based support provided by framework.
