On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 1:04 PM, Nathan Rixham <nrixham@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Matty Sarro wrote:
> > I understand and agree completely, and I really appreciate the help. My goal
> > isn't so much to keep from re-writing code, but to have a pretty firm
> > foundation to stand on before I really begin. I mean, with c++ or c, all I
> > needed was the language, and that was pretty much it. I could do everything
> > from there. This seems a lot more like its a marriage of a ton of different
> > technologies :)
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Daniel Brown <parasane@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Stut <stuttle@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>> Maybe it's just me but I usually end up rewriting everything I write
> >>> at least twice. That's just a fact of life and I've found that I end
> >>> up with far better code that way than I do by trying to get it right
> >>> first time. It also tends to be quicker.
> >> [snip!]
> >>> In short, learn by doing. It's served me well.
> >> I made it even shorter, Stut. ;-P
> >>
> >> He's exactly right, Matty. It's a form of evolution called
> >> "versioning". No programmer gets everything perfect the first (or
> >> usually even second, third, eighth) time. Good, usable, lasting code
> >> will be written and rewritten very often. Look at almost any code
> >> that's been around and distributed (including the PHP project itself)
> >> and you'll notice that there are dozens of versions, because over the
> >> years new ideas have come about to make it more productive, more
> >> economical, and all-around better.
> >>
> >> --
> >> </Dan>
> >>
> >> Daniel P. Brown
> >> Senior Unix Geek
> >> <? while(1) { $me = $mind--; sleep(86400); } ?>
> >>
> >
>
> Indeed it is Matty, here's the way I would approach >
>
> 1 (X)HTML
> view source and w3schools are your friends here
>
> 2 CSS
> just the basic will get you started, worth reading W3C CSS spec
> particularly the BOX Model [http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-box/]
>
> 3 Make a project website in plain XHTML with CSS
>
> 4 ECMAScript (javascript)
> Make your static website do a couple of nice things with some javascript.
>
> you can't expect to program anything we related if you can't format the
> output!
>
Oddly, I learned JavaScript and PHP before truly learning XHTML.
By the way, I really hate <font> tags, so learn XHTML! Also, if you're
learning JavaScript, please learn W3C DOM, and not the
document.write(Ugliness). :)
--
-Casey
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