Matty Sarro wrote:
I understand and agree completely, and I really appreciate the help. My goal
isn't so much to keep from re-writing code, but to have a pretty firm
foundation to stand on before I really begin. I mean, with c++ or c, all I
needed was the language, and that was pretty much it. I could do everything
from there. This seems a lot more like its a marriage of a ton of different
technologies :)
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Daniel Brown <parasane@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Stut <stuttle@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Maybe it's just me but I usually end up rewriting everything I write
at least twice. That's just a fact of life and I've found that I end
up with far better code that way than I do by trying to get it right
first time. It also tends to be quicker.
[snip!]
In short, learn by doing. It's served me well.
I made it even shorter, Stut. ;-P
He's exactly right, Matty. It's a form of evolution called
"versioning". No programmer gets everything perfect the first (or
usually even second, third, eighth) time. Good, usable, lasting code
will be written and rewritten very often. Look at almost any code
that's been around and distributed (including the PHP project itself)
and you'll notice that there are dozens of versions, because over the
years new ideas have come about to make it more productive, more
economical, and all-around better.
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Indeed it is Matty, here's the way I would approach >
1 (X)HTML
view source and w3schools are your friends here
2 CSS
just the basic will get you started, worth reading W3C CSS spec
particularly the BOX Model [http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-box/]
3 Make a project website in plain XHTML with CSS
4 ECMAScript (javascript)
Make your static website do a couple of nice things with some javascript.
you can't expect to program anything we related if you can't format the
output!
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1 PHP
read the manual at php.net - it is the bible and great and great and
good and your best friend; go through all pages and literally copy and
paste the demo code to see what it does, break it and fix it.
2 Make a PHP script that works and does something with some data from a
file/url
3 save the data to a database, then get it back out [manually] then do
it with PHP
4 by the time you're here your some time down the line and really don't
need to be told 4
:)
'sup to you whether you learn the back end, or the front end first -
remember you can easily just print/echo out text and it'll still show in
the browser!
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