Mario Pires > Techniques are essential, we must learn techniques, but only as a means to > produce a realization of our ideas. bang on ! too many dwell on technique for sure.. ideally, my take is that a person learns techniques up to the point that they can forget them and have them become part of the person - innate and intuitive. > Technique without any idea behind just give birth to hollow photos. that can happen.. > We can learn techniques, they requere some, or lots of time to master, but > the most valuable thing in a photo is the realization of an personal idea. > That's what I'm after. fair enough .. so a balance of tech talk and aesthetic talk is reasonable I hope :) karl