> From: <fotofx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Reply-To: <photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 20:28:23 -0800 (GMT-08:00) > To: List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students > <photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: RE: Would you give away a print to a prospective client? > > Hi Jeff, > > I agree witht the majority of your post so far. I have also used images for > barter with airshow pilots too. But those I do not consider freebies. Those > are usually a TFP (trade for prints). Most of the time I could not afford the > costs to do air-to-air work if I have to pay a commercial pilot and hire an > aircraft. It has also gotten me good access for some events. As you are well > aware access is usually the key. > > > But I dont really understand the retail store analogy. I have tried to foster > my creative expertise instead of my price to get work. It has often been tough > when a PE says that his multigazillion $ org won't cough up the cost of an > assistant when the shoot clearly calls for one. I had an editor tell me to my > face that they will not pay for a photo assistant. Then I showed her an > invoice from the year before where they paid one of my business partners for > that very line item!!! > > It's still all over the map everyday, so who know what will happen tomorrow. I > can stand the heat becuase I stick to my guns when bad business comes my way. > But somebody is going to say yes. I really do think that the photo schools > should have a business 101 course in the very first semester. Some do, most do > not. And it needs to be drilled into the art students first. Before you make > any deal make sure that it benefits you directly. > > Now I am going to go and watch some TV, my BP is getting too high. > > Also I would like to apologize if I have offended anyone specifically Mr. > Shapiro it was un intended. I value his input just like any one and have > learned much lerking wihen he responds on this list. > > Les >