> Can we get the hell back on topic here? Or isn't photography > important anymore? Has television made this all irrelevant? Herschel's post was on topic wasn't it? It talked about photography during the Apartheid era. That is important, no? It's the way the UK is going: you can certainly be detained as a suspect for taking photos in the wrong place - heck , there are documented cases of our new "Anti-Terrorist" (read Anti-Protestor) legislation being used against people for wearing the wrong T-shirt!!! <QUOTE>The stop-and-search form filled out by the police officer stated, under grounds for intervention, "carrying plackard [sic] and T-shirt with anti-Blair info". The purpose of the stop and search was stated as "terrorism". </QUOTE> http://www.guardian.co.uk/terrorism/story/0,12780,1583684,00.html If I take a photo with a big overt SLR anywhere near a military base, industrial complex, port, railway station ... I'm likely to become a suspect. Use a discrete cell-phone to take the same picture (with a smiling accomplice in the picture) and I don't. You see, terrorists are almost as stupid as our police: they wouldn't dream of taking photos discretely now would they? ;o) The laws are being used to control and intimidate ordinary people under the umbrella of the bogey-man. Taking pictures in the wrong place in the wrong manner singles you out. Bob