> For that matter any one could just copy the information from a point of sale > as well, the credit card slip that the retailer keeps has all the > information on it, I think we should go back to just using cash, no checks > to copy, no credit card information to steel. I might suggest that everyone review their bank's policy on fraud and refunds. Some banks are better than other banks. Sad fact is there is no 100% sure fire way to avoid fraud. Bob