>Netobjects makes it easy to place Java, Active X, > Flash, etc on a page. Thanks Jim <G> Too much ruddy fluff on the Web already for us people without access to broadband. Your own pages do at least show how NetObjects can be used for simple clear concise presentations without fluff. I must investigate sometime, but the freeware HTMLKit http://www.chami.com/html-kit/ will have to do me for now. Why? Well it makes it difficult to put Java, Active X, Flash, etc on the page so I gotta love it for that ;o) Oh, and it's nerdy. Bob