hi guys, se below and sorry for the sniping >Pini Vollach wrote: >> In the developer paper it say 8 min. to this combo in 20C >> In the HP5 internet PDF it says 6 min. >> >> What is right ? > >The time that is right for your water source. Pini, see if there is a >publication date on either piece of literature. The one that is the >latest may reflect a change in the chemistry of either the developer or >the emulsion. If it does that may be the better starting point for your >tests. well i had the soem experiences with both the rodinals and the box literature...I do not trust it anymore. and i had good luck with the digitaltruth site info. >The directions with any film/developer combination are always suggested >starting points and never definitive answers. The chemistry is never >completely mixed until it's in your water, the temperature determined by >your thermometer, and the film has been exposed in your camera. Once >you've got all of those together then you can begin to determine what is >your normal developing time. true sidney, but a 100% difference in delta 400 dev times? i quit making any comparisons between the Agfa paperwork regarding other firms films...i want to keep my sanity you see, i am currently researching dev times for APX200S. On the box it says that dev times have changed, ergo the film chemistry. i have contacted agfa germany, and received info on the proper dev times for both the rodinals (initial suggested developer was refinal)...then i noticed a typo in the downloadable APX200S pdf sheet (dev time is different in the english text, and correct in the german equivalent)!!!!!!!!!! i am expecting a reply for them, and in the meantime i send all info i had to digitaltruth, where i got a response that Agfa dev suggested times are considered a bit long form other contributors. the search is going on and if you wish i will keep you posted. hard to believe germans proved to be so negligent? _____________________________________________________________________________________ http://www.mailbox.gr ÁðïêôÞóôå äùñåÜí ôï ìïíáäéêü óáò e-mail. http://www.thesuperweb.gr Äåí Ý÷åôå web site; ÁðïêôÞóôå ôï ôþñá êáé ðÜñôå äþñï ôï domain óáò!