Thanx Achal, It says 6 like the Ilford PDF. I did it 7 ( average between 6 & 8 ) and it came out OK. I had one more pushed P+1 film that I add a little time to the PDF and I think it would need more. Conclusion: Ilford give us wrong data about its film ? _______________________ Pini Vollach http://www.pinimage.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-photoforum@listserver.isc.rit.edu [mailto:owner-photoforum@listserver.isc.rit.edu]On Behalf Of achal pashine Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 8:07 PM To: List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students Subject: Re: Help - Ilford HP5 & Agfa Rodinal 1+25 Pini, pl. check the timing in this massive development chart at: http://www.digitaltruth.com/devchart.html > In the developer paper it say 8 min. to this combo in 20C > In the HP5 internet PDF it says 6 min. > > What is right ? > > _______________________ > Pini Vollach > http://www.pinimage.com