War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight; nothing he cares about more than his own personal safety; is a
miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better persons than himself.
--John Stuart Mill
At 08:21 PM 04/23/2003 -0500, you wrote:
None from me...
I have several pals we are Gulf War 1 veterans - and several uncles who were in WWII... Sadly, people will place flags on their SUVs but will never visit a cemetery to place a flag there ...
Dave
At 09:00 PM 04/23/2003 -0400, you wrote:
Actually, I think ANZAC Day may be a much more significant Memorial Day to Austrailians and New
Zealanders than the corresponding Menorial Day is to most Americans. We Americans tend to forget
our war dead, and ignore our living veterans of military service (unless they work for a news
network). I see fewer and fewer flags on graves. For living veterans, service connected
disabilities are poorly compensated and medical treatment is frequently denied.
Read again Kipling's "Tommy Atkins."
Old soldiers never die--the photographer just ignores them.
Personal statement.
Flames invited!
Bill
me@myplace.to wrote:
>
> At 12:34 AM 4/24/2003 +0800, you wrote:
> >It is not the battle which is revisited but rather it is a returning to a
> >place where so many fell, so far from home on a lonely beach, sacrificing
> >themselves for what seemed after the fact, a tragic waste. Turkey is now a
> >friendly nation and have taken great pains to preserve the area, they
> >themselves being awed at the heroic defeat the Australians suffered...
>
> Turkey *should* remember the Gallipoli campaign for they won at a terrible
> cost. The Allied forces inflected half a million Turkish causalities in an
> expedition that had little effect on the outcome of WW1.
>
> Interestingly, the acronym ANZAC (Australian and New Zealand Army Corps) is
> thought to have been coined by a Kiwi supply Sergeant named K. M. Little.
> The name ANZAC is protected by law to keep commercial interest from
> exploiting it. April 25th is to Australia and New Zealand what Veteran's
> Day is to America.
>
> Dave
> East Englewood
> --------------------------
> They stand on the sands of ANZAC Cove
> staring into the sea
> remembering tomorrows
> that never were to be.
