Hello All, Apologies if this came through twice (doubly since it is long). I get the list by digest, so I cannot confirm my suspicion that my first attempt to send misfired. I've given my impressions of this weeks gallery below, but first I'd like to say a bit by way of self-introduction. A number of years back I was a (mostly lurking) list member and thought of myself as a medium to advanced amateur photographer. Then I decided to return to grad school. (I work on philosophical issues in formal logic. Any list members suffering from intractable insomnia are cordial invited to drop a line asking what I am on about in my research.) Going back to school, I found that my disposable income had effectively been disposed of. Conceding to economic necessity and with a heavy heart, I largely abandoned photography and such skills as I had predictably languished. Quite recently I splurged on a digital camera and rejoined the list. I have been having a blast ever since (thesis? what thesis?), and have been kicking myself for choosing photography as the area that had to be scrimped. (Did I really need to eat or have electricity?) My photographic interests tend towards abstractions. I am most interested in form, texture and reflections. I find reflections can both be beautiful (I concede that those in my image in this week's gallery are not) and that they emphasis for me that photography is about light -- in some sense, a photography with reflections has always struck me as partly about photography itself. On to my comments about this week's gallery. At the risk of hubris, I will start with a few about my image. First off, I appreciate the comments that others have posted. The reflections combined with the colour of the clock face were what attracted me. What is reflected in the clock face is the keyboard and CPU of a friend's computer. (Interestingly enough it is an Osbourne, made in 1981, and, as far as I can tell, the first portable computer mass marketed. If I remember rightly, the documentation raves that it weighs "less than 24 pounds"!) The computer reflected represented for me the thesis work I have so diligently been avoiding; hence the title "Time Enough". The symbolism there made me like it despite the flaws that were (fairly) pointed out in some of the posed comments. The big take-home message for me was that just because an image is meaningful or appealing to the photographer, it does not follow that it will be so for the world. David Small (N.Y.C. 2002) While no great fan of street shots, I do like this a fair bit. The comic quality is the most obvious aspect of the image, but no less enjoyable for that. I think that the metal posts the statues hands rest upon act as something of a bridge between the statues legs and the legs of the reading man. For me at least, this adds to the comic effect by intensifying the sense of echo between the two main figures. While much of the setting is a bit cluttered, this is not a fair complaint given the spontaneity of the moment. (I wish I had such an eye for the "blink and you'll miss them" photographic opportunities.) My main reservation is that the truncated "SPECIA" sign on the right bothers me a bit. But then, leaving it out entirely would have put the statue too close to the frame, and I have no idea what was just to the right -- perhaps something more distracting still was being avoided. Roderick Chen This is very good and far enough beyond my technical abilities that I can't even feel envious. I have the strong feeling that it does mean something, but am unable to settle my mind as to just what. That can of course be a bad sign, but when an obviously carefully composed and organized work makes me feel like that, I conclude that there is a very good piece of art challenging me. I have only two minor reservations. The first is the broader white band and black fringe on the bottom of the frame. Second, and for me more importantly, I would like it more if the index finger fit entirely in the "frame" of the skull along with the other fingers. Still, I look forward to the "problems" with my images being so minor. Richard Cooper (Reflections) As I said, I love images involving reflections, so right form the start I am halfway there with this one. I very much like how the "airiness" of the reflection is "mirrored" by the translucency of the veil. However, the overall effect is a bit diminished for me by the cross-bars of the window. It wouldn't' trouble me as much if there was not a convergence of lines pointing directly to the reflection's chin. I agree with Gregory Fraser's comments about the veil being puzzling. At least I do if we mean the same portion of the image -- I am puzzled by the less transparent triangle formed by the lines of the extreme edge of the veil and its reflection. I (tentatively) conclude that the reflected image was added in the darkroom, be it digital or wet. (I do not have a practiced eye for this though. Am I right?) Gregory david Stempel (The Farm) I agree with previous comments that a monstrous print would be breathtaking, but it comes close enough to making me gasp even when viewed on a small and old monitor. I very much like the sense that the colour immediately above the horizon is a strip torn out of the black, and the circle of light in the clouds adds to that sense ("And the sky is torn asunder . . .") I also like that I alternatingly convince myself that I can just see shafts of light bathing the middle third and then that I cannot. Marilyn Dalrymple I have seen a number of other images by Marilyn, both recently and from years ago when I was on the list before, so I know this isn't her typical submission. (That I remember some from years back tells me that many were quite good.) It could be largely because I am on the dog side of one of the oldest of arguments, but the shot does little for me. It seems that this is one (like mine) that means much more to the photographer than the world at large. Dan Mitchell (Boxes) I can see why Dan was attracted to both the pattern and the colours, but the colours ended up a bit too washed out to sustain the effect, I think. Holding a piece of paper up against the monitor at the left of the photo I cropped out the rectangle of background at upper left and felt like that improved the image. What was two slices of background detracting form the effect became an interesting sliver of the world cutting though a pure plastic "still life". Christy Bright (Souvenirs) I very much like how the various colours of light makes the skates seem to glow. I also like the way the bulbs on the left act as a second frame. However, the background seems a bit too heterogeneous and distracts from the effect. (Of course, for me to complain about distracting elements likely has a few gallery viewers thinking "physician heal thyself". And perhaps I am just bitter and envious that Christy has a new G2, whereas I have but a new S30.) It is unfortunate that the two elements of interest (for me at least) are so disposed, because cropping out the background would not only take away the bulbs, but also the explanation (and thus some of the interest) of the colour of the skates. I also would like to see a bit more of the blue hooks (if more there was to shoot). As it is, they make a nice colder contrast to the glow of the main subject. Greg Fraser (Fall) This just edges out Roderick Chen's contribution for my favourite in this week's gallery. I very much like that while I can tell what was shot, it takes an effort to work it out, and even having done so, there is room for a gestalt shift were it seems something different. (I keep almost seeing wet or matted hair.) I also like how many of the leaves (particularly those in the bottom left) have a ghost-like quality. The only thing I would suggest would be a slight crop on top to make the upper border of the image follow the wood as much as possible. Brian Chandler (Botty) While I can see the humorous appeal, there is, in my opinion, a lack of life or punch to the image. While the red flag does add some impact, since it is incidental to the real subject it feels like a distraction. Perhaps if the statue were lighter I would feel differently. King/Arthur (Up/Down) This image reminds me a good deal of some of the sequences in the film Waking Life. I admire the skill with which PS was used here. It takes what I imagine must have been a fairly unremarkable straight shot and makes something of it. But I do feel that employing that skill on a more solid starting point would yield something more interesting. D.L. Shipman (November Pumpkins, Englewood 2002 This is well composed and the bottom left to top right snaking diagonal is very effective. The colour troubles me. It is far enough from "right" to be noticed, but close enough to feel like a miss. But I keep wondering if that is a fair judgment -- I doubt I would feel that way if the subject were not so familiar and connected to a cultural role (But pumpkins are _supposed_ to be orange, dammit!) Thanks to all this week's contributors for the chance to comment upon their work, and to those who took the time to comment upon mine. Brian van den Broek ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca