Re: Gallery review Dec. 1

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> Hi Bob. I'm sorry, but it's the buttery reviews I've been reading
that
> bother me more than the crappy photos they're spreading the butter
on.

No one here is paid to review, there are no entry qualifications.
Everyone too has a different take on life.
For instance, Marilyn's reviews do tend to pick out the positive, for
all we know she sees the world that way.  Is this bad?  Read any
photomag review of cameras/equipment.   In thier case it's a
deliberate tactic rather than a genuine assessment.
Personally I appreciate Marilyn's reviews:  sometimes they do point me
to the positive aspects I had overlooked while dwelling on clumsy
cropping   ;o)

All reviewers only have thier own style and experience, likes and
dislikes.

Luis has a unique style
Marilyn has a unique but totally different style
If you try to emulate either of them you are being a fraud.




> And more than the real lack of reviews lately too. Of course, when
one
> views such a gallery, the last thing one feels inclined to do is
> review it. However, if no one else has the guts to stand up and call
a
> horse a horse, I feel that I must do that. So I say to you all, if
you
> can't do an honest review, please don't bother.

But how can you know for sure the two reviews were not honest?
Really, there are no absolute standards.  Reviewers who can only see
images for thier technical flaws are as blinkered as those who can
only see the good.  Streetphoto stuff for instance can be about
capturing the moment - Jeff's work is (IMO) about mood and atmosphere
more than it is about level horizons, thirds and studio-quality
lighting.  His "umbrella" shot - well, what should a reviewer say?
The person is not sharp?

For myself I've placed my "Split" image in my club's competition for
the first time.  Well, it's dark, it's grainy, its not sharp ... I
don't necessarily expect the judge to like it BUT the only thing that
will piss me off is if he comments on it as if "the author hadn't
realised it was dark, grainy and not sharp".  Whether you like it or
not is personal taste - before you can do a review you really need to
understand what the author was trying to achieve ...




> I only mentioned what I thought was pathetic reviewing because I
> really feel the reviewing needs to get real on PF. Pathetic is a
poor
> and feeble attempt at something, and that's what those reviews were.
As I said:  your reviews would not put me off submitting to the
gallery.  "Au contraire": but without pay I'm sure you can't spare the
time each week ...


> I really looked twice at each submission to try and find something
> positive to comment on, for each one. I mean, besides my gut
feelings,
> anything that I could find positive - composition, colours,
framing -
> it didn't happen.
I always look twice:  once at the thumb and once at the main pic ;o)




> Flattery will get you liked, but will improve nothing.
> I always liked your reviews, Bob. But lately we've been missing
them.
Well, there are two things to blame for that.
1) The server.  Currently it breaks down every Sunday and lately it's
a lottery if anything makes it through to everybody - or even when.
2) Lack of dynamics:  no spin-off discussions on issues raised by the
gallery.  If you spend an hour doing what you call  an honest review
you might wonder if anyone read them.

FWIW ... Greg's image this week was competant but somehow was indeed
uninspiring
Christiane's image I actually liked a lot (and I don't usually go for
city street scenes).



Bob










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