Re: file formats

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Thank you Rob for this helpful information.
Richard Cooper
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob Miracle" <rwm@photo-miracles.com>
To: "List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students"
<photoforum@listserver.isc.rit.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: file formats


> At 07:52 AM 10/15/2002 +0100, you wrote:
> >It's an easy way to stop geeks printing your pictures though:  embed
> >in then a ludicrous dpi setting (say 9999.99 dpi) and they are
> >effectively safe ;o)
>
> Only those who don't understand DPI, which seems to be a majority of
people.
>
> >If you have an image with 4000 pixels across, and you need to print it
> >at 150 dpi to get the size-on-paper you want, would it make any
> >difference to the finished product if you resample it up to 8000
> >pixels wide and printed it at 300 dpi?    Any difference at all that
> >is.
>
> It depends on the output resolution of the print device.  Each printer has
> its own optimum setting.
>
> >Is it just a matter of whether PhotoShop handles the interpolation
> >better than the printer software?
>
> A lot of times the print driver does a better job of interpolation since
it
> is optimizing it for the printer.   Photoshop's Bicubic resample is pretty
> generic.
>
> >Do printers such as the Epson 1200 have a "native" resolution which
> >means they "don't have to think"?
>
> Yes.   Lets look at the two different types of print devices:   Continious
> Tone and Half-Tone.
>
> Continious Tone printers are printers that can represent any color in a
> given "Dot".  These include printers like Dye subs, Fuji Frontiers (using
> LED's to expose real photo paper), etc.  For these printers one image
pixel
> is one print dot.  So for the Fuji Frontier, the optimum DPI is 304.   For
> the Sony 8x10 UD-P70A, its 300 dpi and for the Sony UP-DR100 5x7 roll
> printer, its 334.   The Sony's for instance don't like files that are too
> big.  If I send a 400 dpi image to them, I will get blocked up colors.   I
> have programmed actions in Photoshop that resample the image file to the
> right size before printing.
>
> Half-tone printers are printers that use a series of small "dots" to
> represent one pixel.   There are also two different ways of looking at
> half-tone printers as well.  Your ink jets, color lasers and such give you
> a DPI for the printer such as 1440 dpi (which adds to the confusion) and
> offset printers used for news papers and magazines use a measure called
> "Line Screen".   I'll start with this first since its the quickest to
explain.
>
> When printing to an offset printer, i.e. submitting an image file to a
news
> paper or magazine, you need to know what their line screen is.   For most
> glossy magazines its 150 lpi.  Most news papers run in the 85-100 lpi
> range.    Once you know the lpi, just double it for the necessary dpi of
> the image.   The news paper I string for uses an 85 lpi screen so we
submit
> our images at 170 dpi.   Once I've converted my images to dpi (with
> RESAMPLE OFF) and end up with an 11x7" image @ 170 dpi (still 2000x1312
> pixels), the I check RESAMPLE and then change the inches to the size I
need
> to print.    Photoshop will then resample the image to make it smaller
> since the paper wants 8" wide images (downsamples from 2000 pixels wide to
> 1360 pixels wide).
>
> Ink Jets and such, like the Epson family have an optimum setting.   It may
> vary by maker, but for the most part its 240 dpi for the Epson
> family.     The ink jets print one large dot by using several smaller dots
> of ink.   On older printers that print at 720 dpi, each pixel is
> represented by 9 printer dots (a 3x3 grid) visually blending the three
> colors those printers typically represent.    As the printer technology
> improved,  you went to a 1440 x 720 print head which prints a 6x3 grid of
> dots (many of these were 6 color printers) and finally 2880 x 1440 which
> gives you a 12x6 dot grid to represent each color.
>
> As ink dot sizes got smaller and the bleed of the ink was better
> controlled, the more dots per inch the printer could lay down the more
> realistic the print became.   If you try to say, well I'm going to print a
> 720 dpi image to my 1440 dpi printer, your actually cutting down on the
> number of print dots per pixel and hurting the image quality (well the
> print driver probably downsamples for you to avoid the issue).
>
> So to summarize, you should RESAMPLE your images to match the print size
> based on the printer's needs and scale the image to the right size (not
all
> print drivers auto-scale for you).
>
> For continuous tone printers your image DPI should match the printers DPI.
> For offset printers, your image DPI should be twice the LPI screen the
> printer is using.
> For ink-jets and such, try 240 DPI.  I think most ink-jets are probably
> based on the 720 dpi system.
>
> Thanks,
> Rob
> --
> Rob Miracle
> Photographic Miracles
> 203 Carpenter Brook Dr.
> Cary, NC 27519
> http://www.photo-miracles.com
>
>
>


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