hi all (again) while searching for 67mm filters for my Makinon zoom, i had a look ta a really old photo store, and i found a series of 67, 72 & 77mm filters stacked in its basement. They are the Rokunar brand (if i get the name right) with a forgotten price (about 2/3 of the Cokin ones). there were also some old ones in a green and white carton box, with no brand visibly mentioned. so how good are the Rokunars, and what brand could the other ones be, and how good? does it worth the money to go there again and make a lifetime's supply? (getting a 77mm one in the price of a 67mm IS a bargain,especially having no need to buy larger ones in the case of lense upgrade) BTW the store had more that 4 pieces of 72 and 77mm close-up sets of the latter brand. (that for those that had trouble finding one some weeks ago) =============================================== so... no matter what, CHEER UP MY FRIENDS! Life is too precious to jump the other side of the fence... kostas papakotas / clenched teeth photography http://groups.msn.com/clenchedteethphotography/home.htm 'COS SOMETIMES IT IS BETTER WITH CLENCHED TEETH! _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com