Re: TCP_CONNTRACK_ESTABLISHED 5days

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On 5/2/05, Mogens Valentin <monz@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Taylor, Grant wrote:
> >> Moritz, thanks for pointing that out.
> >> Your suggested 10 minutes seems a bit short, though..
> >
> >
> > I would not set ip_conntrack_tcp_timeout_established to any thing lower
> > than tcp_fin_timeout.  I would be tempted to set
> > ip_conntrack_tcp_timeout_established to approximately double what
> > tcp_fin_timeout is set to.  I don't know of any reason that conntrack
> > would need to keep things for twice tcp_fin_timeout, but I'd rather be
> > safe than sorry.  Besides even double of tcp_fin_timeout is CONSIDERABLY
> > less than 5 days.
> 
> Hmm, dunno if various distros set tcp_fin_timeout differently.
> With 2.6.10, it's 60 secs (not a distro kernel, and I didn't set this).
> Are you saying that Mouritz' 10mins will in some (distro?) cases violate
>    ip_conntrack_tcp_timeout_established >= tcp_fin_timeout * 2 ?
> 

In debian3.1 it is 5 days too !!!

The question now, what troubles would happen if we kep it/changed it !?!?!

> Anyway, /usr/src/linux/Documentation/filesystems/proc.txt says
> 
> tcp_fin_timeout
> ---------------
> The length of time in seconds it takes to receive a final FIN before the
> socket is always closed.  This is strictly a violation of the TCP
> specification, but required to prevent denial-of-service attacks.
> 
> I'm having trouble understanding the 'strictly a violation' part.
> Is it a (iana) crime to define tcp_fin_timeout?
> 
> --
> Kind regards,
> Mogens Valentin
> 
> 


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