On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 4:46 AM, Aniello Del Sorbo <anidel@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > IMHO, 'useless' is the wrong term. > The Contacts app, I am sure, was not meant to be a PIM Contacts application. > But a Contacts application for the Web (where, it makes some sense, the postal > address does not make much sense). > > It's simply targeted at solving a different problem than the one you > were expecting. > > It would make sense if it would have been integrated with the Map application: > Drive me to this contact. > Or, even better with GeoClue, drive me to the CURRENT position of this Contact. > > Dream :/ > -- > anidel > Okay, what "problem" does it solve? It's not a cellphone, so phone numbers are no help. How many phone numbers do you need to look up when your cell phone stores those? It can't send email addresses to anything but the built-in email app, so that's no help. How many times do you need to look up someone's email address when your email program stores that? Almost none of my contacts have their own Web sites, and all browsers have their own bookmarks, so that's pointless. How many people (especially as a percentage of your contacts list) use Jabber or SIP? (Exactly zero of mine, and that includes myself.) On the other hand, I frequently need to look up a physical address in order to snail mail something or travel to a location. I frequently also need searchable notes and custom fields, so I can find a contact by information other than their personal name or make decisions based on information that is completely unrelated to geography or communications. I need multiple phone numbers (home, work, mobile, winter, summer, etc.), some with extensions or non-numeric information. I need multiple addresses (home, work, winter, summer, etc.). I need custom fields that contain codes or information that have meaning only to me, and don't fall under any of the headings that are provided. My 10-year-old Visor Deluxe with a whopping 10MHz processor, 4-grey LCD screen and 8Mb memory does all that (except for field naming). How difficult could it possibly be? By the way, "custom field" means that every attribute of a field can be edited, *including* the name, data type and length. It doesn't mean simply that you can add multiple instances of the same exact field, or select from a limited list of names. Yeah, "useless" is exactly the correct term. If this is supposed to be a "consumer" device, it needs to meet the needs of consumers, not only developers (or no one at all). The issue of whether or not the tablets should come with a real PIM has pretty much been beat to death, but IMO Nokia is taking exactly the wrong stance if they ever want the consumer sales of these devices to approach meaningful numbers. People don't want to lug around more devices than they have to. If a new device can't *replace* their old device, but only does a few new things that aren't compelling, they aren't going to buy it, and more importantly aren't going to use it regularly or recommend it to their friends. So far, none of the tablets have a "killer app" that makes functionality irrelevant to buyers. If the tablet can't do anything that a person's cell phone can't do, what's the point? (And no, display size & resolution alone aren't going to be the selling point.) There are plenty of cellphones out there that do everything the tablets do and then some, many at a lower price point and some as little as half the cost of the N810 - *UNLOCKED!* And the sticking point is that they *all* have *real* PIMs. Mark _______________________________________________ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@xxxxxxxxx https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users