Neil MacLeod wrote: > I can only see this being solved by two things: > > 1. Insisting on the use of r.m.o and r.m.o/extras repositories, don't > use third-party repositories > > 2. Having a "check in procedure" for updated new (even updated) > packages whereby a package is reviewed prior to wider publication > (eg. extras-devel would be ideal as a staging area) > > Item #1 is a personal choice issue - we should all try to avoid using > and publicising third-party repositories, that way they will > eventually disappear. Agreed, and #1 may well work on the category issue too: I'm pretty sure that if we file bugs on the misbehaving applications and keep "publicly humiliating" the continuing offenders, we can make things better even without the bureocracy of a check-in procedure. Btw, I'm not saying we don't need "Extras masters" (the checkin/upload people). We probably do, but getting that system working is a hard problem. Community pressure is an immediate low-risk, low-resource solution to this particular problem. About "Extras masters" or a check-in procedure: a smooth way to start this would be to make the checks happen post-upload in the beginning. Developers would work just like now, but the masters would have the right to remove the package if they see problems with it. This way any problems with the procedure (like long upload queues, see Debian a few years back) wouldn't drive developers away from Garage. This of course assumes we have people willing to be repository masters... > If a review process isn't favoured or possible, the Application > Manager should be modified to ignore any application which is not in > a pre-existing (ie. approved) category, although this could become > inflexible and undesirable in the long term unless the available > approved categories can be updated on-line (but then the approved > list may be open to abuse if it's maintained by Nokia...) That would also work if the application manager put all packages with an unidentified category into category "Others" (or something like it). Jussi -- Jussi Kukkonen