Thanks for information! This is very interesting and useful. BTW, I don't want to consider Skype wants to extract some sensitive information for malicious purposes but its obfuscated & closed code and protocol decrease trust to it down to zero level :-) On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 23:42:23 +0400, Ryan Pavlik <abiryan at ryand.net> wrote: > The RTCOMM software in development adds SIP support to the built-in > software set, and so can be used as a skype replacement. GizmoProject > has also been used as a closed-source but open-protocol voice client. > > (See planet.gnome.org for information on why that slashdot article is > probably overblown, btw) > > Ryan > > DZ wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Have anybody tried to compile Wengo Phone for N800? >> >> Skype is very contradictive to linux tablet spirit >> - this software uses proprietary closed and encrypted protocol (closed >> also means weak); >> - written using obfuscation in software (decryption and checks also >> uses additional n800 power and resources) >> http://www.secdev.org/conf/skype_BHEU06.pdf >> (http://www.xakep.ru/post/38543/default.asp); >> - according to latest reports reads sensitive user information and >> nobody knows why (because software is closed source and obfuscated) >> and how it can be used by crackers >> (http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/08/26/1312256&from=rss). >> >> So, Wengo is viable alternative to the Skype. >> >> Thanks, >> Denis >> >> On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 12:24:45 +0400, Alan Williamson >> <alan at blog-city.com> wrote: >> >> >>> Sorry replied to the individual not the list -- man do i hate that >>> "feature" of the list (and yes for the record, i completely disagree >>> with every point made by that link that attempts to justify it) :) >>> >>> -------- Original Message -------- >>> Subject: Re: Fwd: Skype on N800 >>> Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 09:23:31 +0100 >>> From: Alan Williamson <alan at blog-city.com> >>> Reply-To: alan at blog-city.com >>> Organization: Blog-City Ltd >>> To: James Sparenberg <james at linuxrebel.org> >>> >>> >>>> The last point above has value in light of a recent development. I >>>> could >>>> point to 2 things 1. the shear hype surround the iPhone. and >>>> second the >>>> expert surfing done by the RAZR team managing to release a new >>>> "color" or >>>> other change every time sales began to slow. >>>> >>> I agree -- the hype around the iPhone has been interesting to watch. >>> Especially as they address the awful onscreen keyboard usage which >>> seems >>> to be getting people in a bit of a tizz. >>> >>> If you look at the video on the Apple site; they have everything the >>> N800 has, except for one rather cool little feature. But that is >>> something i am sure nokia could easily add in with a next release >>> (predicts which key you are going to press next and makes that box >>> bigger). >>> >>> Nokia -- get thy head out of the sand and take a leaf out of that Jobs >>> boy book -- either start hyping up your cool stuff, or give US THE >>> TOOLS >>> and we'll do it for you! >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/