Am 21. Aug 2007 um 19:17 Uhr schrieb Jean Delvare: > Do we really need a mail validation mechanism (as bugzilla and mailman > do) AND a captcha? I thought that we only needed one method. I've > always seen the captcha as a replacement for email validation when > email validation is considered too much. My experience from running online fora (using phpBB) suggests that captchas are actually a harder test than email verification - apparently spambots do read their mail and follow through on confirmation links. So, email verification has its place for confirming address ownership (to catch typos and prevent abuse), but it's not much use when the spambot _is_ the legitimate owner of an email address. Also, even the bots who don't go to this trouble still end up creating loads of bogus user accounts. Captchas aren't perfect, either - some bots succeed reading them, but maybe phpBB's captcha generator is too deterministic. Still, they have reduced the amount of spam by many orders of magnitude, to about two or three posts per month, making manual deletion feasible. > In the case of trac we want an email address anyway (for ticket change > notifications). Which would indeed suggest having both mechanisms, IMO.