Re: Setting a HID report via an interrupt transfer.

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[quoted lines by Greg KH on 2012/04/05 at 20:09 -0700]

>We merged the "speakup" interface into the kernel a few years ago.  It
>supports braille terminals, or at least I sure thought it did.  If not,
>my appologies.

Speakup is for speech - not for braille. If they put support in there for a 
braille device or two, we know nothing about it, and, speaking for myself, I 
haven't even heard of anyone using such a thing.

>But, along those lines, if speakup doesn't support your devices, it
>should, and we can work to add support for that, just let us know.

Our interest is in opening up braille access to all platforms - not just to one 
of them (even though that platform happens to be my own personal favourite, by 
far).

Why put a lot of effort into each platform individually, when, as we've already 
very clearly demonstrated, all platforms can be supported with only a minimal 
amount of one time, general, work up front for each of them? The way we do it, 
each platform gets the same reliable and functional software with very little 
of our time and efforts being expended on it. Why do you thiknk that doing it 
the other way around - investing a great deal of time and effort on each 
platform individually - is the better way?

>You asked vague questions about a specific hardware device that Linux
>already supports, without asking why you need that information, what you
>were trying to do, or even (as is now evident) the fact that Linux isn't
>the platform you are trying to get this working on.

Of course it is. I told you that I myself use Linux for my development and 
testing work. It's just that I know that it'll work on all pltforms once I get 
it working on Linux.

>I suggest you look up the "How to ask good questions" document out
>there, that might help out in future interactions.

I asked what I needed to know. It was, and still is, a good question, and I did 
ask it correctly.  It's just that you took it upon yourself to make me have to 
raise a massive legal defense to support that good question. Perhaps you could 
read the other document on how to respect others and give them helpful answers.

Perhaps you find my statement above a bit offensive. If so, please look in a 
mirror and give serious consideration to how I just might feel about your 
statement above that. Fortunately, I happen to be a forgiving person who can 
put the evils of the past and the faults of others behind me. I just thought 
that it might be helpful to, if only for a moment, give you a dose of your own 
medicine. If you don't like it, then please don't dish it out.

>I don't understand what you mean by "platform" here, I thought I asked
>that previously.  What exactly do you mean here?  Linux?  BSDs?  OS-X?
>Windows?  Something else?

Yes, that's the general idea. Although, as I've already mentioned, we're even 
looking into much more primitive "platform"s like grub. Can you imagine what 
it'd be like to have to deal with the grub prompt and have no monitor? That's 
what blind people have to deal with. We need our software to work on even the 
most primitive of platforms so that even they can be properly opened up to 
blind users. That's why we do things the way we do them. I challenge you to do 
it better.

>This mailing list is specifically for the Linux USB kernel drivers and
>interfaces, anything outside of that is pretty much off-topic and will
>not get you very far, sorry.

Okay - I broke the law and have unquestioningly been extremely rude! I thought 
I was asking knowledgeable friends for good advice, but, in so doing, I ran 
afowl of the on-topic police. I just can't take it anymore, and shall now be 
loooking for a doctor who'll be willing to help me commit suicide.

May it be that your attitude isn't contageous.

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