Its not just the packages, although that is part of it. The main reason Ubuntu is still favored over Debian by many end-users is ease of installation and upkeep. I support Linux users in STEM fields. As you probably know, Linux is huge with researchers in STEM fields. But they don't want to figure out how to install Debian and update it. They just want their computer to work.
Personally, I run Debian. That Ubuntu automatic update system gives me the willies. I don't want to click a button that says "Update now". But I'm not a researcher, I'm the support staff.
On 9/3/24 9:58 AM, cstrobel
crosslink.net wrote:
aI have been using Speakup and ORCA at the same time for about a year on Bookworm. I have Bookworm backports active. I agree with Jason, use Pipewire. I'm not sure why folks want to use Ubuntu any more unless they have some very specific package that isn't on Debian you may be asking for more trouble than it is worth.I know I read the Debian accessibility FAQ, but I'm not sure exactly what I did off the top of my head.Make sure that pipewire-pulse is running on your system by doing "ps -ef|grep pipewire" or something similar.
From: Martin McCormick <martin.m@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: SPFUNSUPPORTED MAY BE MALICIOUS CLI Terminals with Speakup (Was howto run speakup/orca concurrently in ubuntu)Thanks for the clarification about pipewire and why it is here.
I didn't realize that pulseaudio is fading into the
sunset as it has been around and served well for quite a few
years.
To remind those who have followed this thread today, the
only real problem I am talking about is minor compared with stuff
that is supposed to work but doesn't.
It looks like one should be able to get speakup to work
older world of pure text-based command-line consoles since there
are things that runa little more smoothly there than when GUI
tools are needed.
By the same token, the present implimentation of speakup
with gnome also does well and all I was hoping to do was have
both functionalities on the same system.
Thanks for the information that has been provided as it
is useful and I am still interested if there is a way to do this
but at least things are about 95% working.
Martin
"Jason J.G. White" <jason@xxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
> While we're discussing clarifications, note that Pulseaudio is effectively
> deprecated now. Pipewire has superseded it. Also, Pipewire includes an
> implementation of the Pulseaudio client API, so that client applications
> designed for Pulseaudio still work normally under Pipewire.
From: Martin McCormick <martin.m@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, September 2, 2024 6:08 PM
To: speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: SPFUNSUPPORTED MAY BE MALICIOUS CLI Terminals with Speakup (Was howto run speakup/orca concurrently in ubuntu)Thanks for the clarification about pipewire and why it is here.
I didn't realize that pulseaudio is fading into the
sunset as it has been around and served well for quite a few
years.
To remind those who have followed this thread today, the
only real problem I am talking about is minor compared with stuff
that is supposed to work but doesn't.
It looks like one should be able to get speakup to work
older world of pure text-based command-line consoles since there
are things that runa little more smoothly there than when GUI
tools are needed.
By the same token, the present implimentation of speakup
with gnome also does well and all I was hoping to do was have
both functionalities on the same system.
Thanks for the information that has been provided as it
is useful and I am still interested if there is a way to do this
but at least things are about 95% working.
Martin
"Jason J.G. White" <jason@xxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
> While we're discussing clarifications, note that Pulseaudio is effectively
> deprecated now. Pipewire has superseded it. Also, Pipewire includes an
> implementation of the Pulseaudio client API, so that client applications
> designed for Pulseaudio still work normally under Pipewire.
