I think that the optican was different in that it used a video camera. My thought here is to capture the video signal as it would be going to a monitor, and send it directly to be processed OCR,, and then it could either go to a Braille display, or TTS. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Glenn" <glennervin@xxxxxxxxx>; "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 3:29 PM Subject: Re: a little sysadmin story Glenn, are you talking about the Opticon? Didn't someone start remanufacturing that relatively recently? Glenn writes: > What we need is a piece of hardware that does OCR directly from the video > port. > It seems like that would be a relatively easy device to produce, given > what > we have these days. > Glenn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Al Sten-Clanton" <albert.e.sten_clanton@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." > <speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 9:52 AM > Subject: Re: a little sysadmin story > > > First, I thank Janina for raising certain issues better than I could. > (I also thank others who've made valuable points from different angles.) > > Second, where is the equivalent code for kicking in the monitor when we > boot up? Shouldn't the aim be to treat our access technology in the > same or an equivalent way, to the degree possible? > > Al > > On 10/09/2014 09:55 AM, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: > > I also wanted to point out that most companies and organizations are a > > bit weird about installing anything. The fact that Speakup is in the > > kernel, but the entire idea of installing a special program which > > they're not sure of, be it screen reader or magnification bothers most > > people, so this isn't just an issue of Speakup possibly being better. > > There are reasons and there obviously is a need for speakup to get > > better, perhaps that means coming out of kernel space. But a sad story > > from once upon a time with a moral unrelated is not quite the point. > > On 10/9/2014 9:46 AM, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: > >> This whole story sounds like it needs another couple of bears to make > >> it all interesting. So speakup crashed the kernel. I've had issues, > >> but apart from known bugs I've never seen speakup panic the kernel all > >> the time. Speakup caused a system to crash? Perhaps. People should > >> also backup their work. > >> On 10/9/2014 9:34 AM, Deedra Waters wrote: > >>> Janina, > >>> > >>> speakup was the cause because when bossman came down to hook up a > >>> monitor and look, the panick messages had something to do with > >>> speakup. > >>> > >>> As for backing up their work, they were trying to fix their fuck-up to > >>> begin with. The initial problem wasn't with speakup. However when i > >>> was > >>> helping them debug it, speakup made the kernel panick and crash. > >>> > >>> Debian i dont think likes people with root access on their box to > >>> begin > >>> with, but i think they kind of didn't like speakup in their kernel to > >>> begin with. > >>> > >>> I suspect on the other hand that if speakup was a user-space app, it > >>> wouldn't have mattered to them so much. If a userspace program crashes > >>> it doesn't take down the whole box. When speakup does though, it takes > >>> down the whole box. > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 sip:janina@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Email: janina@xxxxxxxxxxx Linux Foundation Fellow Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Chair, Protocols & Formats http://www.w3.org/wai/pf Indie UI http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/ _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
