Sorry, I forgot to delete past comments and so the message I sent was too big and so am re sending it now. On Fri, 12 Feb 2010, Pia wrote: > Actually, most of the 3D stuff if you are good at config files can be > adminned from the commandline. It is the users that need the 3D workstations > and of course the HTC clusters are commandline only. My workstation needs > the GUI for the rare time and I do mean rare that I have to have a GUI in > order to troubleshoot a user's problem because of the graphical nature of > their work, but other than that, any admin worth their salt in Unix can make > most changes behind the scenes via the commandline and in a good text editor > in console mode. That isn't that strange at all. I for the record did not > say that speakup would become irrelevant whatsoever. You have me mixed up > with someone else on the list. I merely pointed out that serial ports are > starting to go away and that that is a concern. I apologize if I took your > comments as if they were hostile, but I suppose I get irritated at people > arrogantly supposing that they know what environment is best for everybody > and then telling someone who does not choose their way of doing things that > that person's way is irrelevant. I am glad that the speakup developers are a > lot better than that in that they actually listen to their users instead of > telling them how it should be. Screen reader, speech synth, and overall > environment is a matter of personal choice and what works and so I think it > is lame to assume that the way you do things is the only relevant way to do > it. As blind people, we are all fringe cases and so we should learn some > sensitivity from being on the short end of the stick so many times anyway > when deciding whose environment matters or not. > > On Fri, 12 Feb 2010, John G. Heim wrote: > >> But I'm not hostile. I haven't said one hostile thing to you. All I've >> done is point out flaws and inconsistancies in your messages. It seems to >> me that you're the one trying to force his opinions on others, not me. >> >> I am not trying to criticize your personal choices as far as your work >> environment. But you surely must see that its not typical. For you to claim >> that speakup is going to become less relevant based on your very unusual >> needs is truely unfair. You have this unique situation where you want to >> be bleeding edge (in your own words) while at the same time not. You >> insist that you have to have this bleeding edge computer for 3D yet you >> also insist that you have to run your workstation in character mode all the >> time. Surely you must see that that's not typical. Most people in your >> position would use orca on their workstation and speakup on their servers. >> Or maybe they'd use a Windows workstation and still run speakup on their >> servers. >> >> I don't see how you can fail to see how inconsistent your arguments are.
