I think you have had a response which reflects my views fairly well. Speakup is aimed at different people to SBL. The only thing I might add is that packaging speakup doesn't really seem any more difficult than the packaging of those optional drivers, eg. the nvidia GLX stuff, a sighted person needs a driver for the video card so they can have useful output, I need a way of making my apollo synth to give useful output (speakup). One big difference is that SBL has Braille support although I have to be honest and say that when I tried SBL for that feature I wasn't impressed, brltty seems to be much more reliable. I didn't really try SBL for speech output as speakup really meets my needs for text console access (in the speech department, brltty for the Braille). There does seem to be a dedicated set of users of SBL, so your effort of getting SBL on ubuntu is probably of value. Its good to have the choice, I choose not to use it because I find features of greater value in other software. Let's not duplicate work by having separately developed clones. Michael Whapples On 01/-10/-28163 08:59 PM, Bill Cox wrote: > I'm trying to port SBL (Suse Blind Linux) to Ubuntu. It is the > default console screen reader in Knoppix Adrian. Some users report > they prefer SBL, and two main reasons are given: > > - SBL has application specific keybindings, all of which are > user-configurable. This makes it easy to be more Orca compatible. > - SBL relies only on the uinput and console devices, and doesn't need > any special modules to be compiled for the current kernel. This makes > it possible to ship as a simple Debian package. > > Is there any chance the speakup guys might want to work on either of > these two features? I think it would greatly increase the appeal of > speakup to the main distro developers. > > Thanks, > Bill > >